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From my understanding in the US, a father can give an individual gift of $15,000 to a child (or anyone) without any tax liabilities and without impacting the lifetime allowance. If the father wants to give more money, can he make a gift to a third party he trusts (e.g., his brother/uncle of his son) who then makes a gift to the child, or is that tax fraud?










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    The rule of thumb on questions like this is, if you thought of this clever trick, there's good odds that someone else has already thought of it, and that it's been brought to the attention of the IRS at some point, and they are aware of it and know how to deal with people trying to be clever by doing this thing to screw them out of their tax revenue.

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From my understanding in the US, a father can give an individual gift of $15,000 to a child (or anyone) without any tax liabilities and without impacting the lifetime allowance. If the father wants to give more money, can he make a gift to a third party he trusts (e.g., his brother/uncle of his son) who then makes a gift to the child, or is that tax fraud?










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    The rule of thumb on questions like this is, if you thought of this clever trick, there's good odds that someone else has already thought of it, and that it's been brought to the attention of the IRS at some point, and they are aware of it and know how to deal with people trying to be clever by doing this thing to screw them out of their tax revenue.

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  • Precisely, @MasonWheeler .

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From my understanding in the US, a father can give an individual gift of $15,000 to a child (or anyone) without any tax liabilities and without impacting the lifetime allowance. If the father wants to give more money, can he make a gift to a third party he trusts (e.g., his brother/uncle of his son) who then makes a gift to the child, or is that tax fraud?










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From my understanding in the US, a father can give an individual gift of $15,000 to a child (or anyone) without any tax liabilities and without impacting the lifetime allowance. If the father wants to give more money, can he make a gift to a third party he trusts (e.g., his brother/uncle of his son) who then makes a gift to the child, or is that tax fraud?







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    The rule of thumb on questions like this is, if you thought of this clever trick, there's good odds that someone else has already thought of it, and that it's been brought to the attention of the IRS at some point, and they are aware of it and know how to deal with people trying to be clever by doing this thing to screw them out of their tax revenue.

    – Mason Wheeler
    4 hours ago











  • Precisely, @MasonWheeler .

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    The rule of thumb on questions like this is, if you thought of this clever trick, there's good odds that someone else has already thought of it, and that it's been brought to the attention of the IRS at some point, and they are aware of it and know how to deal with people trying to be clever by doing this thing to screw them out of their tax revenue.

    – Mason Wheeler
    4 hours ago











  • Precisely, @MasonWheeler .

    – Fattie
    3 hours ago








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The rule of thumb on questions like this is, if you thought of this clever trick, there's good odds that someone else has already thought of it, and that it's been brought to the attention of the IRS at some point, and they are aware of it and know how to deal with people trying to be clever by doing this thing to screw them out of their tax revenue.

– Mason Wheeler
4 hours ago





The rule of thumb on questions like this is, if you thought of this clever trick, there's good odds that someone else has already thought of it, and that it's been brought to the attention of the IRS at some point, and they are aware of it and know how to deal with people trying to be clever by doing this thing to screw them out of their tax revenue.

– Mason Wheeler
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Precisely, @MasonWheeler .

– Fattie
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Precisely, @MasonWheeler .

– Fattie
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If you give a gift with stings attached, then it isn't a gift. Thus it would be viewed as trying to get around the tax law. The law regarding this is the Step Transaction Doctrine.



But a spouse can also give a gift, and you can give a gift to your child's spouse. Thus a couple can give another couple 4x the limit each year.



If the child is in school then the giver can pay tuition directly and not worry about the limit. They can't send it to the student, they have to send it to the school.



Of course exceeding the limit in a year, does require paperwork, but the lifetime allowance is $11.4M as of 2019. Current tax law has this number adjust for inflation. If this is is something to worry about, consult a tax attorney to see how to do this legally.






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    Nice. The first sentence is key to so many gift questions...

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    There were a couple things I'd have posted, but 2 minor points don't make a full answer. If my edits are unwelcome, you can roll back. I won't take offense.

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    @JoeTaxpayer the step transaction stuff is perfect.

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    The first sentence isn't categorically true; in particular, it's routine for charitable gifts to come with instructions on how they must be used (particular scholarships, particular sorts of needy recipients, etc.).

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If you give a gift with stings attached, then it isn't a gift. Thus it would be viewed as trying to get around the tax law. The law regarding this is the Step Transaction Doctrine.



But a spouse can also give a gift, and you can give a gift to your child's spouse. Thus a couple can give another couple 4x the limit each year.



If the child is in school then the giver can pay tuition directly and not worry about the limit. They can't send it to the student, they have to send it to the school.



Of course exceeding the limit in a year, does require paperwork, but the lifetime allowance is $11.4M as of 2019. Current tax law has this number adjust for inflation. If this is is something to worry about, consult a tax attorney to see how to do this legally.






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    Nice. The first sentence is key to so many gift questions...

    – TTT
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    There were a couple things I'd have posted, but 2 minor points don't make a full answer. If my edits are unwelcome, you can roll back. I won't take offense.

    – JoeTaxpayer
    5 hours ago






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    @JoeTaxpayer the step transaction stuff is perfect.

    – StrongBad
    5 hours ago






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    The first sentence isn't categorically true; in particular, it's routine for charitable gifts to come with instructions on how they must be used (particular scholarships, particular sorts of needy recipients, etc.).

    – chrylis
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If you give a gift with stings attached, then it isn't a gift. Thus it would be viewed as trying to get around the tax law. The law regarding this is the Step Transaction Doctrine.



But a spouse can also give a gift, and you can give a gift to your child's spouse. Thus a couple can give another couple 4x the limit each year.



If the child is in school then the giver can pay tuition directly and not worry about the limit. They can't send it to the student, they have to send it to the school.



Of course exceeding the limit in a year, does require paperwork, but the lifetime allowance is $11.4M as of 2019. Current tax law has this number adjust for inflation. If this is is something to worry about, consult a tax attorney to see how to do this legally.






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    Nice. The first sentence is key to so many gift questions...

    – TTT
    6 hours ago






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    There were a couple things I'd have posted, but 2 minor points don't make a full answer. If my edits are unwelcome, you can roll back. I won't take offense.

    – JoeTaxpayer
    5 hours ago






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    @JoeTaxpayer the step transaction stuff is perfect.

    – StrongBad
    5 hours ago






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    The first sentence isn't categorically true; in particular, it's routine for charitable gifts to come with instructions on how they must be used (particular scholarships, particular sorts of needy recipients, etc.).

    – chrylis
    1 hour ago














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If you give a gift with stings attached, then it isn't a gift. Thus it would be viewed as trying to get around the tax law. The law regarding this is the Step Transaction Doctrine.



But a spouse can also give a gift, and you can give a gift to your child's spouse. Thus a couple can give another couple 4x the limit each year.



If the child is in school then the giver can pay tuition directly and not worry about the limit. They can't send it to the student, they have to send it to the school.



Of course exceeding the limit in a year, does require paperwork, but the lifetime allowance is $11.4M as of 2019. Current tax law has this number adjust for inflation. If this is is something to worry about, consult a tax attorney to see how to do this legally.






share|improve this answer















If you give a gift with stings attached, then it isn't a gift. Thus it would be viewed as trying to get around the tax law. The law regarding this is the Step Transaction Doctrine.



But a spouse can also give a gift, and you can give a gift to your child's spouse. Thus a couple can give another couple 4x the limit each year.



If the child is in school then the giver can pay tuition directly and not worry about the limit. They can't send it to the student, they have to send it to the school.



Of course exceeding the limit in a year, does require paperwork, but the lifetime allowance is $11.4M as of 2019. Current tax law has this number adjust for inflation. If this is is something to worry about, consult a tax attorney to see how to do this legally.







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    Nice. The first sentence is key to so many gift questions...

    – TTT
    6 hours ago






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    There were a couple things I'd have posted, but 2 minor points don't make a full answer. If my edits are unwelcome, you can roll back. I won't take offense.

    – JoeTaxpayer
    5 hours ago






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    @JoeTaxpayer the step transaction stuff is perfect.

    – StrongBad
    5 hours ago






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    The first sentence isn't categorically true; in particular, it's routine for charitable gifts to come with instructions on how they must be used (particular scholarships, particular sorts of needy recipients, etc.).

    – chrylis
    1 hour ago














  • 4





    Nice. The first sentence is key to so many gift questions...

    – TTT
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    There were a couple things I'd have posted, but 2 minor points don't make a full answer. If my edits are unwelcome, you can roll back. I won't take offense.

    – JoeTaxpayer
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    @JoeTaxpayer the step transaction stuff is perfect.

    – StrongBad
    5 hours ago






  • 1





    The first sentence isn't categorically true; in particular, it's routine for charitable gifts to come with instructions on how they must be used (particular scholarships, particular sorts of needy recipients, etc.).

    – chrylis
    1 hour ago








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Nice. The first sentence is key to so many gift questions...

– TTT
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Nice. The first sentence is key to so many gift questions...

– TTT
6 hours ago




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There were a couple things I'd have posted, but 2 minor points don't make a full answer. If my edits are unwelcome, you can roll back. I won't take offense.

– JoeTaxpayer
5 hours ago





There were a couple things I'd have posted, but 2 minor points don't make a full answer. If my edits are unwelcome, you can roll back. I won't take offense.

– JoeTaxpayer
5 hours ago




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@JoeTaxpayer the step transaction stuff is perfect.

– StrongBad
5 hours ago





@JoeTaxpayer the step transaction stuff is perfect.

– StrongBad
5 hours ago




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The first sentence isn't categorically true; in particular, it's routine for charitable gifts to come with instructions on how they must be used (particular scholarships, particular sorts of needy recipients, etc.).

– chrylis
1 hour ago





The first sentence isn't categorically true; in particular, it's routine for charitable gifts to come with instructions on how they must be used (particular scholarships, particular sorts of needy recipients, etc.).

– chrylis
1 hour ago





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