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I am having problems solving this puzzle. The sum of each 3x3 square should be 2019, how to find the number in the bottom right corner? Labelling each field we can gain some information about the numbers by subtracting two neighbouring squares, but is looks like a very cumbersome and long proces. And am not even sure that it would solve the problem. Maybe one can find some invariant to use?
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I am having problems solving this puzzle. The sum of each 3x3 square should be 2019, how to find the number in the bottom right corner? Labelling each field we can gain some information about the numbers by subtracting two neighbouring squares, but is looks like a very cumbersome and long proces. And am not even sure that it would solve the problem. Maybe one can find some invariant to use?
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I am having problems solving this puzzle. The sum of each 3x3 square should be 2019, how to find the number in the bottom right corner? Labelling each field we can gain some information about the numbers by subtracting two neighbouring squares, but is looks like a very cumbersome and long proces. And am not even sure that it would solve the problem. Maybe one can find some invariant to use?
combinatorics number-theory
I am having problems solving this puzzle. The sum of each 3x3 square should be 2019, how to find the number in the bottom right corner? Labelling each field we can gain some information about the numbers by subtracting two neighbouring squares, but is looks like a very cumbersome and long proces. And am not even sure that it would solve the problem. Maybe one can find some invariant to use?
combinatorics number-theory
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Note that the sum of the top six elements in the first column is the same as the sum of the top six elements in the last column because you can make four $3 times 3$ squares up against the top left and get a sum of $4cdot 2019$ and four $3 times 3$ squares up agains the top right and also get a sum of $4 cdot 2019$. A similar argument says the sum of the bottom six elements in the first column is the same as the sum of the bottom six elements of the last column.
Now adding the top six of the first and the bottom six of the last gives the same sum as the top six of the last and the bottom six of the first. The center five squares on each edge cancel out and we are left with $10+?=11+6, ?=7$
There is just one top element in the first column; its value is $10$.
– Christian Blatter
8 hours ago
Thank you! That was fast!
– Nikolaj K
8 hours ago
@ChristianBlatter The usage of "Top N" to mean "Elements 1 through N" was first popularized by Professor D. Letterman.
– MartianInvader
3 hours ago
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Please consider this as a supplement to Ross Millikan excellent answer...
$$(10 + ?) - (6+11) = 4(2019) + 4(2019) - 4(2019) - 4(2019) = 0\
implies ? = 7$$
Thanks. I couldn't think of an easy way to draw the figure.
– Ross Millikan
7 hours ago
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Notice that because every $3times 3$ square has the same sum that
$10 + A+ B = 8+E+F$ and that $A+B + 7 = E+F + X$.
Which means $X = 5$.
Likewise $7+C+D= X + G+H = 5+G+H$ and $C+D+6 = G+H+Z$
Which means $Z = 4$.
And so on.
$8 + E+F = 11 + J+K$ while $E+F+5 = J+K + Y$ so $Y= 8$.
And $5+G+H = 8 + L+M$ while $G+H+4 = L + M +?$ so $?=7$.
And that's that.
Or simply, by $3times 3$ squares adding to the same, the difference between any two squares $3$ terms apart, must be equal to the corresponding difference of two squares $3$ terms apart in a row or column three rows or columns away.
So $10 -8 = 7 - X= 6-Z$ and 11-8 = Y-X= ? - Z$ and so.....$X,Y,Z, ?$ are easily solved.
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3 Answers
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Note that the sum of the top six elements in the first column is the same as the sum of the top six elements in the last column because you can make four $3 times 3$ squares up against the top left and get a sum of $4cdot 2019$ and four $3 times 3$ squares up agains the top right and also get a sum of $4 cdot 2019$. A similar argument says the sum of the bottom six elements in the first column is the same as the sum of the bottom six elements of the last column.
Now adding the top six of the first and the bottom six of the last gives the same sum as the top six of the last and the bottom six of the first. The center five squares on each edge cancel out and we are left with $10+?=11+6, ?=7$
There is just one top element in the first column; its value is $10$.
– Christian Blatter
8 hours ago
Thank you! That was fast!
– Nikolaj K
8 hours ago
@ChristianBlatter The usage of "Top N" to mean "Elements 1 through N" was first popularized by Professor D. Letterman.
– MartianInvader
3 hours ago
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Note that the sum of the top six elements in the first column is the same as the sum of the top six elements in the last column because you can make four $3 times 3$ squares up against the top left and get a sum of $4cdot 2019$ and four $3 times 3$ squares up agains the top right and also get a sum of $4 cdot 2019$. A similar argument says the sum of the bottom six elements in the first column is the same as the sum of the bottom six elements of the last column.
Now adding the top six of the first and the bottom six of the last gives the same sum as the top six of the last and the bottom six of the first. The center five squares on each edge cancel out and we are left with $10+?=11+6, ?=7$
There is just one top element in the first column; its value is $10$.
– Christian Blatter
8 hours ago
Thank you! That was fast!
– Nikolaj K
8 hours ago
@ChristianBlatter The usage of "Top N" to mean "Elements 1 through N" was first popularized by Professor D. Letterman.
– MartianInvader
3 hours ago
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up vote
1
down vote
accepted
up vote
1
down vote
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Note that the sum of the top six elements in the first column is the same as the sum of the top six elements in the last column because you can make four $3 times 3$ squares up against the top left and get a sum of $4cdot 2019$ and four $3 times 3$ squares up agains the top right and also get a sum of $4 cdot 2019$. A similar argument says the sum of the bottom six elements in the first column is the same as the sum of the bottom six elements of the last column.
Now adding the top six of the first and the bottom six of the last gives the same sum as the top six of the last and the bottom six of the first. The center five squares on each edge cancel out and we are left with $10+?=11+6, ?=7$
Note that the sum of the top six elements in the first column is the same as the sum of the top six elements in the last column because you can make four $3 times 3$ squares up against the top left and get a sum of $4cdot 2019$ and four $3 times 3$ squares up agains the top right and also get a sum of $4 cdot 2019$. A similar argument says the sum of the bottom six elements in the first column is the same as the sum of the bottom six elements of the last column.
Now adding the top six of the first and the bottom six of the last gives the same sum as the top six of the last and the bottom six of the first. The center five squares on each edge cancel out and we are left with $10+?=11+6, ?=7$
answered 9 hours ago
Ross Millikan
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There is just one top element in the first column; its value is $10$.
– Christian Blatter
8 hours ago
Thank you! That was fast!
– Nikolaj K
8 hours ago
@ChristianBlatter The usage of "Top N" to mean "Elements 1 through N" was first popularized by Professor D. Letterman.
– MartianInvader
3 hours ago
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There is just one top element in the first column; its value is $10$.
– Christian Blatter
8 hours ago
Thank you! That was fast!
– Nikolaj K
8 hours ago
@ChristianBlatter The usage of "Top N" to mean "Elements 1 through N" was first popularized by Professor D. Letterman.
– MartianInvader
3 hours ago
There is just one top element in the first column; its value is $10$.
– Christian Blatter
8 hours ago
There is just one top element in the first column; its value is $10$.
– Christian Blatter
8 hours ago
Thank you! That was fast!
– Nikolaj K
8 hours ago
Thank you! That was fast!
– Nikolaj K
8 hours ago
@ChristianBlatter The usage of "Top N" to mean "Elements 1 through N" was first popularized by Professor D. Letterman.
– MartianInvader
3 hours ago
@ChristianBlatter The usage of "Top N" to mean "Elements 1 through N" was first popularized by Professor D. Letterman.
– MartianInvader
3 hours ago
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Please consider this as a supplement to Ross Millikan excellent answer...
$$(10 + ?) - (6+11) = 4(2019) + 4(2019) - 4(2019) - 4(2019) = 0\
implies ? = 7$$
Thanks. I couldn't think of an easy way to draw the figure.
– Ross Millikan
7 hours ago
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up vote
2
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Please consider this as a supplement to Ross Millikan excellent answer...
$$(10 + ?) - (6+11) = 4(2019) + 4(2019) - 4(2019) - 4(2019) = 0\
implies ? = 7$$
Thanks. I couldn't think of an easy way to draw the figure.
– Ross Millikan
7 hours ago
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up vote
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Please consider this as a supplement to Ross Millikan excellent answer...
$$(10 + ?) - (6+11) = 4(2019) + 4(2019) - 4(2019) - 4(2019) = 0\
implies ? = 7$$
Please consider this as a supplement to Ross Millikan excellent answer...
$$(10 + ?) - (6+11) = 4(2019) + 4(2019) - 4(2019) - 4(2019) = 0\
implies ? = 7$$
answered 7 hours ago
achille hui
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Thanks. I couldn't think of an easy way to draw the figure.
– Ross Millikan
7 hours ago
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Thanks. I couldn't think of an easy way to draw the figure.
– Ross Millikan
7 hours ago
Thanks. I couldn't think of an easy way to draw the figure.
– Ross Millikan
7 hours ago
Thanks. I couldn't think of an easy way to draw the figure.
– Ross Millikan
7 hours ago
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Notice that because every $3times 3$ square has the same sum that
$10 + A+ B = 8+E+F$ and that $A+B + 7 = E+F + X$.
Which means $X = 5$.
Likewise $7+C+D= X + G+H = 5+G+H$ and $C+D+6 = G+H+Z$
Which means $Z = 4$.
And so on.
$8 + E+F = 11 + J+K$ while $E+F+5 = J+K + Y$ so $Y= 8$.
And $5+G+H = 8 + L+M$ while $G+H+4 = L + M +?$ so $?=7$.
And that's that.
Or simply, by $3times 3$ squares adding to the same, the difference between any two squares $3$ terms apart, must be equal to the corresponding difference of two squares $3$ terms apart in a row or column three rows or columns away.
So $10 -8 = 7 - X= 6-Z$ and 11-8 = Y-X= ? - Z$ and so.....$X,Y,Z, ?$ are easily solved.
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Notice that because every $3times 3$ square has the same sum that
$10 + A+ B = 8+E+F$ and that $A+B + 7 = E+F + X$.
Which means $X = 5$.
Likewise $7+C+D= X + G+H = 5+G+H$ and $C+D+6 = G+H+Z$
Which means $Z = 4$.
And so on.
$8 + E+F = 11 + J+K$ while $E+F+5 = J+K + Y$ so $Y= 8$.
And $5+G+H = 8 + L+M$ while $G+H+4 = L + M +?$ so $?=7$.
And that's that.
Or simply, by $3times 3$ squares adding to the same, the difference between any two squares $3$ terms apart, must be equal to the corresponding difference of two squares $3$ terms apart in a row or column three rows or columns away.
So $10 -8 = 7 - X= 6-Z$ and 11-8 = Y-X= ? - Z$ and so.....$X,Y,Z, ?$ are easily solved.
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Notice that because every $3times 3$ square has the same sum that
$10 + A+ B = 8+E+F$ and that $A+B + 7 = E+F + X$.
Which means $X = 5$.
Likewise $7+C+D= X + G+H = 5+G+H$ and $C+D+6 = G+H+Z$
Which means $Z = 4$.
And so on.
$8 + E+F = 11 + J+K$ while $E+F+5 = J+K + Y$ so $Y= 8$.
And $5+G+H = 8 + L+M$ while $G+H+4 = L + M +?$ so $?=7$.
And that's that.
Or simply, by $3times 3$ squares adding to the same, the difference between any two squares $3$ terms apart, must be equal to the corresponding difference of two squares $3$ terms apart in a row or column three rows or columns away.
So $10 -8 = 7 - X= 6-Z$ and 11-8 = Y-X= ? - Z$ and so.....$X,Y,Z, ?$ are easily solved.
Notice that because every $3times 3$ square has the same sum that
$10 + A+ B = 8+E+F$ and that $A+B + 7 = E+F + X$.
Which means $X = 5$.
Likewise $7+C+D= X + G+H = 5+G+H$ and $C+D+6 = G+H+Z$
Which means $Z = 4$.
And so on.
$8 + E+F = 11 + J+K$ while $E+F+5 = J+K + Y$ so $Y= 8$.
And $5+G+H = 8 + L+M$ while $G+H+4 = L + M +?$ so $?=7$.
And that's that.
Or simply, by $3times 3$ squares adding to the same, the difference between any two squares $3$ terms apart, must be equal to the corresponding difference of two squares $3$ terms apart in a row or column three rows or columns away.
So $10 -8 = 7 - X= 6-Z$ and 11-8 = Y-X= ? - Z$ and so.....$X,Y,Z, ?$ are easily solved.
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answered 7 hours ago
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