What is this 4-propeller plane?
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My dad noticed it flying quite low today, sadly we do not have a better photo.
4-propellers and uniquely shaped tail assembly.
Plane was spotted in northern Poland, around 9.30AM, near border with Russia/Kaliningrad.
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My dad noticed it flying quite low today, sadly we do not have a better photo.
4-propellers and uniquely shaped tail assembly.
Plane was spotted in northern Poland, around 9.30AM, near border with Russia/Kaliningrad.
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Have a look at my answer - and especially the many images of each type of craft. I do not know the exact location but (see map in my answer) given the appearance and the various locations mentioned, the IL38 appears the more likely choice. I may be wrong, of course :-).
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– Russell McMahon
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My dad noticed it flying quite low today, sadly we do not have a better photo.
4-propellers and uniquely shaped tail assembly.
Plane was spotted in northern Poland, around 9.30AM, near border with Russia/Kaliningrad.
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My dad noticed it flying quite low today, sadly we do not have a better photo.
4-propellers and uniquely shaped tail assembly.
Plane was spotted in northern Poland, around 9.30AM, near border with Russia/Kaliningrad.
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Have a look at my answer - and especially the many images of each type of craft. I do not know the exact location but (see map in my answer) given the appearance and the various locations mentioned, the IL38 appears the more likely choice. I may be wrong, of course :-).
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– Russell McMahon
4 hours ago
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Have a look at my answer - and especially the many images of each type of craft. I do not know the exact location but (see map in my answer) given the appearance and the various locations mentioned, the IL38 appears the more likely choice. I may be wrong, of course :-).
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– Russell McMahon
4 hours ago
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Have a look at my answer - and especially the many images of each type of craft. I do not know the exact location but (see map in my answer) given the appearance and the various locations mentioned, the IL38 appears the more likely choice. I may be wrong, of course :-).
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– Russell McMahon
4 hours ago
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Have a look at my answer - and especially the many images of each type of craft. I do not know the exact location but (see map in my answer) given the appearance and the various locations mentioned, the IL38 appears the more likely choice. I may be wrong, of course :-).
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– Russell McMahon
4 hours ago
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Where you spotted it would help with probabilities.
However - the tail marks it out as a Maritime Patrol aircraft, of which the only low-wing 4-engine one is the P-3 Orion operated primarily by the US and Oz.
answered 9 hours ago
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Added time & location details to question, thank you.
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– Łukasz Daniluk
9 hours ago
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There's one other low-wing 4 engine maratime patrol aircraft, the Ilyushin Il-38. Although indeed this looks more like the P-3 Orion.
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– Sanchises
9 hours ago
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I think your answer would benefit from some information as to what exactly about the tail makes it obviously a maritime patrol aircraft.
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– Alexander Kosubek
7 hours ago
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@AlexanderKosubek Agreed. The MAD boom on the tail is there specifically for submarine hunting.
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– J...
6 hours ago
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For interest: I'd have suggested a P3 - New Zealand (where I live) also operates them although I believe they are about to be phased out.
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– Russell McMahon
5 hours ago
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The fuselage extension at the back of the empennage is similar to that of a Lockheed P-3 Orion
answered 9 hours ago
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While I personally would have thought it was an Orion P3 (as it resembles the Orions flown by the NZ airforce), I suggest that Sanchises suggestion of an Ilyushin IL38 (not II38) seems more likely. This is based on numerous online images of both craft 'at a distance' and the location. The wing shape appears (to me) more like that of the IL38, and one could 'pretend' (given the small image size) that the outer engines appeared somewhat smaller, as is the case with IL38's 'at a distance'.
The IL38 is or was operated by USSR/Russia and India.
Depending on how close the location was to the Russian border the aircraft may have been in Russian or Russian-Kaliningrad airspace. The latter would seem to be an entirely likely location for such an aircraft.
It is also entirely possible (and I have no knowledge either way) that Russia has overflight rights for military aircraft between Russia proper and the Kaliningrad exclave.
Orion P3 operators are listed here
Apart from the US Navy (whose aircraft may turn up almost anywhere :-) ) none of the 15 operators listed are anywhere near the location noted. .
Many P3 Orion photos here
Many Ilyushin IL38 photos here
Here is an image of a US Navy P3 Orion.
It will be seen in many of the images linked above that from a distance the wings tend to appear slightly swept forward due to the larger rear root to tip taper compared to the leading edge taper.
________________________________
Here is a diagram of an IL-38
Looking at the many IL38 images linked above shows the wing to appear at a distance as thinner and squarer ended than a P3 Orion.
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answered 4 hours ago
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I don't see the radar bulge though, which I think should show up even on the low quality picture.
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– Sanchises
4 hours ago
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@Sanchises In photos, not all have them, and some have what look like garden sheds on top :-). I looked for other feature differences as well, but could not convince myself with any degree of certainty that the RADAR dome was missing as opposed to masked. Knowing the photographers location and line of bearing may help.
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– Russell McMahon
4 hours ago
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Among the P-3 opeartors, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal and Spain are all in NATO, so could reasonably be flying near Kaliningrad. Amsterdam and Oslo are closer to Kaliningrad than Moscow is.
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– David Richerby
2 hours ago
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Where you spotted it would help with probabilities.
However - the tail marks it out as a Maritime Patrol aircraft, of which the only low-wing 4-engine one is the P-3 Orion operated primarily by the US and Oz.
answered 9 hours ago
RACRAC
2,52559
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Added time & location details to question, thank you.
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– Łukasz Daniluk
9 hours ago
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There's one other low-wing 4 engine maratime patrol aircraft, the Ilyushin Il-38. Although indeed this looks more like the P-3 Orion.
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– Sanchises
9 hours ago
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I think your answer would benefit from some information as to what exactly about the tail makes it obviously a maritime patrol aircraft.
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– Alexander Kosubek
7 hours ago
3
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@AlexanderKosubek Agreed. The MAD boom on the tail is there specifically for submarine hunting.
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– J...
6 hours ago
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For interest: I'd have suggested a P3 - New Zealand (where I live) also operates them although I believe they are about to be phased out.
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– Russell McMahon
5 hours ago
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show 1 more comment
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Where you spotted it would help with probabilities.
However - the tail marks it out as a Maritime Patrol aircraft, of which the only low-wing 4-engine one is the P-3 Orion operated primarily by the US and Oz.
answered 9 hours ago
RACRAC
2,52559
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Added time & location details to question, thank you.
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– Łukasz Daniluk
9 hours ago
6
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There's one other low-wing 4 engine maratime patrol aircraft, the Ilyushin Il-38. Although indeed this looks more like the P-3 Orion.
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– Sanchises
9 hours ago
8
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I think your answer would benefit from some information as to what exactly about the tail makes it obviously a maritime patrol aircraft.
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– Alexander Kosubek
7 hours ago
3
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@AlexanderKosubek Agreed. The MAD boom on the tail is there specifically for submarine hunting.
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– J...
6 hours ago
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For interest: I'd have suggested a P3 - New Zealand (where I live) also operates them although I believe they are about to be phased out.
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– Russell McMahon
5 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
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Where you spotted it would help with probabilities.
However - the tail marks it out as a Maritime Patrol aircraft, of which the only low-wing 4-engine one is the P-3 Orion operated primarily by the US and Oz.
answered 9 hours ago
RACRAC
2,52559
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Where you spotted it would help with probabilities.
However - the tail marks it out as a Maritime Patrol aircraft, of which the only low-wing 4-engine one is the P-3 Orion operated primarily by the US and Oz.
answered 9 hours ago
RACRAC
2,52559
answered 9 hours ago
RACRAC
2,52559
answered 9 hours ago
RACRAC
2,52559
answered 9 hours ago
RACRAC
2,52559
2,52559
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Added time & location details to question, thank you.
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– Łukasz Daniluk
9 hours ago
6
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There's one other low-wing 4 engine maratime patrol aircraft, the Ilyushin Il-38. Although indeed this looks more like the P-3 Orion.
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– Sanchises
9 hours ago
8
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I think your answer would benefit from some information as to what exactly about the tail makes it obviously a maritime patrol aircraft.
$endgroup$
– Alexander Kosubek
7 hours ago
3
$begingroup$
@AlexanderKosubek Agreed. The MAD boom on the tail is there specifically for submarine hunting.
$endgroup$
– J...
6 hours ago
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For interest: I'd have suggested a P3 - New Zealand (where I live) also operates them although I believe they are about to be phased out.
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– Russell McMahon
5 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
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Added time & location details to question, thank you.
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– Łukasz Daniluk
9 hours ago
6
$begingroup$
There's one other low-wing 4 engine maratime patrol aircraft, the Ilyushin Il-38. Although indeed this looks more like the P-3 Orion.
$endgroup$
– Sanchises
9 hours ago
8
$begingroup$
I think your answer would benefit from some information as to what exactly about the tail makes it obviously a maritime patrol aircraft.
$endgroup$
– Alexander Kosubek
7 hours ago
3
$begingroup$
@AlexanderKosubek Agreed. The MAD boom on the tail is there specifically for submarine hunting.
$endgroup$
– J...
6 hours ago
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For interest: I'd have suggested a P3 - New Zealand (where I live) also operates them although I believe they are about to be phased out.
$endgroup$
– Russell McMahon
5 hours ago
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Added time & location details to question, thank you.
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– Łukasz Daniluk
9 hours ago
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Added time & location details to question, thank you.
$endgroup$
– Łukasz Daniluk
9 hours ago
6
6
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There's one other low-wing 4 engine maratime patrol aircraft, the Ilyushin Il-38. Although indeed this looks more like the P-3 Orion.
$endgroup$
– Sanchises
9 hours ago
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There's one other low-wing 4 engine maratime patrol aircraft, the Ilyushin Il-38. Although indeed this looks more like the P-3 Orion.
$endgroup$
– Sanchises
9 hours ago
8
8
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I think your answer would benefit from some information as to what exactly about the tail makes it obviously a maritime patrol aircraft.
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– Alexander Kosubek
7 hours ago
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I think your answer would benefit from some information as to what exactly about the tail makes it obviously a maritime patrol aircraft.
$endgroup$
– Alexander Kosubek
7 hours ago
3
3
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@AlexanderKosubek Agreed. The MAD boom on the tail is there specifically for submarine hunting.
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– J...
6 hours ago
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@AlexanderKosubek Agreed. The MAD boom on the tail is there specifically for submarine hunting.
$endgroup$
– J...
6 hours ago
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For interest: I'd have suggested a P3 - New Zealand (where I live) also operates them although I believe they are about to be phased out.
$endgroup$
– Russell McMahon
5 hours ago
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For interest: I'd have suggested a P3 - New Zealand (where I live) also operates them although I believe they are about to be phased out.
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– Russell McMahon
5 hours ago
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show 1 more comment
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The fuselage extension at the back of the empennage is similar to that of a Lockheed P-3 Orion
answered 9 hours ago
Dave GremlinDave Gremlin
948313
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The fuselage extension at the back of the empennage is similar to that of a Lockheed P-3 Orion
answered 9 hours ago
Dave GremlinDave Gremlin
948313
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add a comment |
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The fuselage extension at the back of the empennage is similar to that of a Lockheed P-3 Orion
answered 9 hours ago
Dave GremlinDave Gremlin
948313
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The fuselage extension at the back of the empennage is similar to that of a Lockheed P-3 Orion
answered 9 hours ago
Dave GremlinDave Gremlin
948313
answered 9 hours ago
Dave GremlinDave Gremlin
948313
answered 9 hours ago
Dave GremlinDave Gremlin
948313
answered 9 hours ago
Dave GremlinDave Gremlin
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While I personally would have thought it was an Orion P3 (as it resembles the Orions flown by the NZ airforce), I suggest that Sanchises suggestion of an Ilyushin IL38 (not II38) seems more likely. This is based on numerous online images of both craft 'at a distance' and the location. The wing shape appears (to me) more like that of the IL38, and one could 'pretend' (given the small image size) that the outer engines appeared somewhat smaller, as is the case with IL38's 'at a distance'.
The IL38 is or was operated by USSR/Russia and India.
Depending on how close the location was to the Russian border the aircraft may have been in Russian or Russian-Kaliningrad airspace. The latter would seem to be an entirely likely location for such an aircraft.
It is also entirely possible (and I have no knowledge either way) that Russia has overflight rights for military aircraft between Russia proper and the Kaliningrad exclave.
Orion P3 operators are listed here
Apart from the US Navy (whose aircraft may turn up almost anywhere :-) ) none of the 15 operators listed are anywhere near the location noted. .
Many P3 Orion photos here
Many Ilyushin IL38 photos here
Here is an image of a US Navy P3 Orion.
It will be seen in many of the images linked above that from a distance the wings tend to appear slightly swept forward due to the larger rear root to tip taper compared to the leading edge taper.
________________________________
Here is a diagram of an IL-38
Looking at the many IL38 images linked above shows the wing to appear at a distance as thinner and squarer ended than a P3 Orion.
edited 4 hours ago
Federico♦
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answered 4 hours ago
Russell McMahonRussell McMahon
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I don't see the radar bulge though, which I think should show up even on the low quality picture.
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– Sanchises
4 hours ago
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@Sanchises In photos, not all have them, and some have what look like garden sheds on top :-). I looked for other feature differences as well, but could not convince myself with any degree of certainty that the RADAR dome was missing as opposed to masked. Knowing the photographers location and line of bearing may help.
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– Russell McMahon
4 hours ago
1
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Among the P-3 opeartors, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal and Spain are all in NATO, so could reasonably be flying near Kaliningrad. Amsterdam and Oslo are closer to Kaliningrad than Moscow is.
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– David Richerby
2 hours ago
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While I personally would have thought it was an Orion P3 (as it resembles the Orions flown by the NZ airforce), I suggest that Sanchises suggestion of an Ilyushin IL38 (not II38) seems more likely. This is based on numerous online images of both craft 'at a distance' and the location. The wing shape appears (to me) more like that of the IL38, and one could 'pretend' (given the small image size) that the outer engines appeared somewhat smaller, as is the case with IL38's 'at a distance'.
The IL38 is or was operated by USSR/Russia and India.
Depending on how close the location was to the Russian border the aircraft may have been in Russian or Russian-Kaliningrad airspace. The latter would seem to be an entirely likely location for such an aircraft.
It is also entirely possible (and I have no knowledge either way) that Russia has overflight rights for military aircraft between Russia proper and the Kaliningrad exclave.
Orion P3 operators are listed here
Apart from the US Navy (whose aircraft may turn up almost anywhere :-) ) none of the 15 operators listed are anywhere near the location noted. .
Many P3 Orion photos here
Many Ilyushin IL38 photos here
Here is an image of a US Navy P3 Orion.
It will be seen in many of the images linked above that from a distance the wings tend to appear slightly swept forward due to the larger rear root to tip taper compared to the leading edge taper.
________________________________
Here is a diagram of an IL-38
Looking at the many IL38 images linked above shows the wing to appear at a distance as thinner and squarer ended than a P3 Orion.
edited 4 hours ago
Federico♦
26.4k16105157
answered 4 hours ago
Russell McMahonRussell McMahon
95679
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I don't see the radar bulge though, which I think should show up even on the low quality picture.
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– Sanchises
4 hours ago
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@Sanchises In photos, not all have them, and some have what look like garden sheds on top :-). I looked for other feature differences as well, but could not convince myself with any degree of certainty that the RADAR dome was missing as opposed to masked. Knowing the photographers location and line of bearing may help.
$endgroup$
– Russell McMahon
4 hours ago
1
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Among the P-3 opeartors, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal and Spain are all in NATO, so could reasonably be flying near Kaliningrad. Amsterdam and Oslo are closer to Kaliningrad than Moscow is.
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– David Richerby
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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While I personally would have thought it was an Orion P3 (as it resembles the Orions flown by the NZ airforce), I suggest that Sanchises suggestion of an Ilyushin IL38 (not II38) seems more likely. This is based on numerous online images of both craft 'at a distance' and the location. The wing shape appears (to me) more like that of the IL38, and one could 'pretend' (given the small image size) that the outer engines appeared somewhat smaller, as is the case with IL38's 'at a distance'.
The IL38 is or was operated by USSR/Russia and India.
Depending on how close the location was to the Russian border the aircraft may have been in Russian or Russian-Kaliningrad airspace. The latter would seem to be an entirely likely location for such an aircraft.
It is also entirely possible (and I have no knowledge either way) that Russia has overflight rights for military aircraft between Russia proper and the Kaliningrad exclave.
Orion P3 operators are listed here
Apart from the US Navy (whose aircraft may turn up almost anywhere :-) ) none of the 15 operators listed are anywhere near the location noted. .
Many P3 Orion photos here
Many Ilyushin IL38 photos here
Here is an image of a US Navy P3 Orion.
It will be seen in many of the images linked above that from a distance the wings tend to appear slightly swept forward due to the larger rear root to tip taper compared to the leading edge taper.
________________________________
Here is a diagram of an IL-38
Looking at the many IL38 images linked above shows the wing to appear at a distance as thinner and squarer ended than a P3 Orion.
edited 4 hours ago
Federico♦
26.4k16105157
answered 4 hours ago
Russell McMahonRussell McMahon
95679
$endgroup$
While I personally would have thought it was an Orion P3 (as it resembles the Orions flown by the NZ airforce), I suggest that Sanchises suggestion of an Ilyushin IL38 (not II38) seems more likely. This is based on numerous online images of both craft 'at a distance' and the location. The wing shape appears (to me) more like that of the IL38, and one could 'pretend' (given the small image size) that the outer engines appeared somewhat smaller, as is the case with IL38's 'at a distance'.
The IL38 is or was operated by USSR/Russia and India.
Depending on how close the location was to the Russian border the aircraft may have been in Russian or Russian-Kaliningrad airspace. The latter would seem to be an entirely likely location for such an aircraft.
It is also entirely possible (and I have no knowledge either way) that Russia has overflight rights for military aircraft between Russia proper and the Kaliningrad exclave.
Orion P3 operators are listed here
Apart from the US Navy (whose aircraft may turn up almost anywhere :-) ) none of the 15 operators listed are anywhere near the location noted. .
Many P3 Orion photos here
Many Ilyushin IL38 photos here
Here is an image of a US Navy P3 Orion.
It will be seen in many of the images linked above that from a distance the wings tend to appear slightly swept forward due to the larger rear root to tip taper compared to the leading edge taper.
________________________________
Here is a diagram of an IL-38
Looking at the many IL38 images linked above shows the wing to appear at a distance as thinner and squarer ended than a P3 Orion.
edited 4 hours ago
Federico♦
26.4k16105157
answered 4 hours ago
Russell McMahonRussell McMahon
95679
edited 4 hours ago
Federico♦
26.4k16105157
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Federico♦
26.4k16105157
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Federico♦
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26.4k16105157
answered 4 hours ago
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answered 4 hours ago
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I don't see the radar bulge though, which I think should show up even on the low quality picture.
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– Sanchises
4 hours ago
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@Sanchises In photos, not all have them, and some have what look like garden sheds on top :-). I looked for other feature differences as well, but could not convince myself with any degree of certainty that the RADAR dome was missing as opposed to masked. Knowing the photographers location and line of bearing may help.
$endgroup$
– Russell McMahon
4 hours ago
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Among the P-3 opeartors, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal and Spain are all in NATO, so could reasonably be flying near Kaliningrad. Amsterdam and Oslo are closer to Kaliningrad than Moscow is.
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– David Richerby
2 hours ago
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I don't see the radar bulge though, which I think should show up even on the low quality picture.
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– Sanchises
4 hours ago
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@Sanchises In photos, not all have them, and some have what look like garden sheds on top :-). I looked for other feature differences as well, but could not convince myself with any degree of certainty that the RADAR dome was missing as opposed to masked. Knowing the photographers location and line of bearing may help.
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– Russell McMahon
4 hours ago
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Among the P-3 opeartors, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal and Spain are all in NATO, so could reasonably be flying near Kaliningrad. Amsterdam and Oslo are closer to Kaliningrad than Moscow is.
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– David Richerby
2 hours ago
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I don't see the radar bulge though, which I think should show up even on the low quality picture.
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– Sanchises
4 hours ago
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I don't see the radar bulge though, which I think should show up even on the low quality picture.
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– Sanchises
4 hours ago
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@Sanchises In photos, not all have them, and some have what look like garden sheds on top :-). I looked for other feature differences as well, but could not convince myself with any degree of certainty that the RADAR dome was missing as opposed to masked. Knowing the photographers location and line of bearing may help.
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– Russell McMahon
4 hours ago
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@Sanchises In photos, not all have them, and some have what look like garden sheds on top :-). I looked for other feature differences as well, but could not convince myself with any degree of certainty that the RADAR dome was missing as opposed to masked. Knowing the photographers location and line of bearing may help.
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– Russell McMahon
4 hours ago
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Among the P-3 opeartors, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal and Spain are all in NATO, so could reasonably be flying near Kaliningrad. Amsterdam and Oslo are closer to Kaliningrad than Moscow is.
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– David Richerby
2 hours ago
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Among the P-3 opeartors, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal and Spain are all in NATO, so could reasonably be flying near Kaliningrad. Amsterdam and Oslo are closer to Kaliningrad than Moscow is.
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– David Richerby
2 hours ago
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Have a look at my answer - and especially the many images of each type of craft. I do not know the exact location but (see map in my answer) given the appearance and the various locations mentioned, the IL38 appears the more likely choice. I may be wrong, of course :-).
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