Are there any other shorter expressions for 8 by manipulating exactly 4 4?












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The label $4times 4 -4 -4$ for 8 seems to be too long. I am looking for other shorter ones while maintaining the constraint of only using four 4.



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    What about $(4+4)cdotfrac{4}{4}$? :-D
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    @trancelocation : nice thanks!
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    Another one $4cdotsqrt[4]{4cdot 4}$.
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The label $4times 4 -4 -4$ for 8 seems to be too long. I am looking for other shorter ones while maintaining the constraint of only using four 4.



enter image description here



Are there such expressions?






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    What about $(4+4)cdotfrac{4}{4}$? :-D
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    – trancelocation
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    @trancelocation : nice thanks!
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    – Artificial Stupidity
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    Another one $4cdotsqrt[4]{4cdot 4}$.
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    – trancelocation
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$begingroup$


The label $4times 4 -4 -4$ for 8 seems to be too long. I am looking for other shorter ones while maintaining the constraint of only using four 4.



enter image description here



Are there such expressions?






integer-partitions







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The label $4times 4 -4 -4$ for 8 seems to be too long. I am looking for other shorter ones while maintaining the constraint of only using four 4.



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Are there such expressions?






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    $begingroup$
    What about $(4+4)cdotfrac{4}{4}$? :-D
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    – trancelocation
    21 mins ago










  • $begingroup$
    @trancelocation : nice thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – Artificial Stupidity
    20 mins ago










  • $begingroup$
    Another one $4cdotsqrt[4]{4cdot 4}$.
    $endgroup$
    – trancelocation
    17 mins ago














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    What about $(4+4)cdotfrac{4}{4}$? :-D
    $endgroup$
    – trancelocation
    21 mins ago










  • $begingroup$
    @trancelocation : nice thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – Artificial Stupidity
    20 mins ago










  • $begingroup$
    Another one $4cdotsqrt[4]{4cdot 4}$.
    $endgroup$
    – trancelocation
    17 mins ago








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$begingroup$
What about $(4+4)cdotfrac{4}{4}$? :-D
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– trancelocation
21 mins ago




$begingroup$
What about $(4+4)cdotfrac{4}{4}$? :-D
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– trancelocation
21 mins ago












$begingroup$
@trancelocation : nice thanks!
$endgroup$
– Artificial Stupidity
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$begingroup$
@trancelocation : nice thanks!
$endgroup$
– Artificial Stupidity
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$begingroup$
Another one $4cdotsqrt[4]{4cdot 4}$.
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– trancelocation
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$begingroup$
Another one $4cdotsqrt[4]{4cdot 4}$.
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Here is one: $frac{4times4}4+4=8$



Here is another one: $frac{4!}{4-frac44}=8$






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    Here my ones: :-)




    • $(4+4)timesfrac{4}{4}$

    • $4times sqrt[4]{4times 4}$






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      The first one probably looks more consistent with the others if written as $4 times frac{4+4}{4}$.
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      @MishaLavrov right. adjusted accordingly. :-)
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    We have $8=4+4^{4/4}$, which plays nicely with your existing $4=4+4^{4-4}$.



    Edit: Or $8=4+log_4 4^4=log_4 4^{4+4}$, if you want to bring in a new ingredient.






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      $begingroup$

      Here is one: $frac{4times4}4+4=8$



      Here is another one: $frac{4!}{4-frac44}=8$






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        $begingroup$

        Here is one: $frac{4times4}4+4=8$



        Here is another one: $frac{4!}{4-frac44}=8$






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          Here is one: $frac{4times4}4+4=8$



          Here is another one: $frac{4!}{4-frac44}=8$






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          Here is one: $frac{4times4}4+4=8$



          Here is another one: $frac{4!}{4-frac44}=8$







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              Here my ones: :-)




              • $(4+4)timesfrac{4}{4}$

              • $4times sqrt[4]{4times 4}$






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              • $begingroup$
                The first one probably looks more consistent with the others if written as $4 times frac{4+4}{4}$.
                $endgroup$
                – Misha Lavrov
                11 mins ago










              • $begingroup$
                @MishaLavrov right. adjusted accordingly. :-)
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                – trancelocation
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              2












              $begingroup$

              Here my ones: :-)




              • $(4+4)timesfrac{4}{4}$

              • $4times sqrt[4]{4times 4}$






              share|cite|improve this answer











              $endgroup$













              • $begingroup$
                The first one probably looks more consistent with the others if written as $4 times frac{4+4}{4}$.
                $endgroup$
                – Misha Lavrov
                11 mins ago










              • $begingroup$
                @MishaLavrov right. adjusted accordingly. :-)
                $endgroup$
                – trancelocation
                2 mins ago














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              $begingroup$

              Here my ones: :-)




              • $(4+4)timesfrac{4}{4}$

              • $4times sqrt[4]{4times 4}$






              share|cite|improve this answer











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              Here my ones: :-)




              • $(4+4)timesfrac{4}{4}$

              • $4times sqrt[4]{4times 4}$







              share|cite|improve this answer














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              • $begingroup$
                The first one probably looks more consistent with the others if written as $4 times frac{4+4}{4}$.
                $endgroup$
                – Misha Lavrov
                11 mins ago










              • $begingroup$
                @MishaLavrov right. adjusted accordingly. :-)
                $endgroup$
                – trancelocation
                2 mins ago


















              • $begingroup$
                The first one probably looks more consistent with the others if written as $4 times frac{4+4}{4}$.
                $endgroup$
                – Misha Lavrov
                11 mins ago










              • $begingroup$
                @MishaLavrov right. adjusted accordingly. :-)
                $endgroup$
                – trancelocation
                2 mins ago
















              $begingroup$
              The first one probably looks more consistent with the others if written as $4 times frac{4+4}{4}$.
              $endgroup$
              – Misha Lavrov
              11 mins ago




              $begingroup$
              The first one probably looks more consistent with the others if written as $4 times frac{4+4}{4}$.
              $endgroup$
              – Misha Lavrov
              11 mins ago












              $begingroup$
              @MishaLavrov right. adjusted accordingly. :-)
              $endgroup$
              – trancelocation
              2 mins ago




              $begingroup$
              @MishaLavrov right. adjusted accordingly. :-)
              $endgroup$
              – trancelocation
              2 mins ago











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              We have $8=4+4^{4/4}$, which plays nicely with your existing $4=4+4^{4-4}$.



              Edit: Or $8=4+log_4 4^4=log_4 4^{4+4}$, if you want to bring in a new ingredient.






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                $begingroup$

                We have $8=4+4^{4/4}$, which plays nicely with your existing $4=4+4^{4-4}$.



                Edit: Or $8=4+log_4 4^4=log_4 4^{4+4}$, if you want to bring in a new ingredient.






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                  We have $8=4+4^{4/4}$, which plays nicely with your existing $4=4+4^{4-4}$.



                  Edit: Or $8=4+log_4 4^4=log_4 4^{4+4}$, if you want to bring in a new ingredient.






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                  We have $8=4+4^{4/4}$, which plays nicely with your existing $4=4+4^{4-4}$.



                  Edit: Or $8=4+log_4 4^4=log_4 4^{4+4}$, if you want to bring in a new ingredient.







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