Using an older 200A breaker panel on a 60A feeder circuit from house?
I'm in the planning stages of a new workshop/shed build. I plan to run a 60A ciruit from the main panel in the house to a subpanel in the shed.
I recently picked up a used Challenger QM322200 200A breaker panel with about a dozen circuit breakers for a song. Can I use this panel as is, with the stock 200A main breaker as a master shut-off? (I'd relabel the panel as 60A).
If no, where can I find a 60A main breaker to swap into the panel?
Thanks for your help.
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I'm in the planning stages of a new workshop/shed build. I plan to run a 60A ciruit from the main panel in the house to a subpanel in the shed.
I recently picked up a used Challenger QM322200 200A breaker panel with about a dozen circuit breakers for a song. Can I use this panel as is, with the stock 200A main breaker as a master shut-off? (I'd relabel the panel as 60A).
If no, where can I find a 60A main breaker to swap into the panel?
Thanks for your help.
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Harper or one of the other pros will provide more detail, but there are apparently problems with some Challenger breakers. So it may have been cheap because it was somebody's extra, or it may have been cheap because it was junk. List the type of breakers or post a picture and I'm sure the pros can let you know. As far as 200A vs. 60A, assuming there is a 60A breaker in the main panel for the feed to the subpanel, then you can have any size subpanel because the main breaker is a shutoff switch and not needed as an actual safety breaker.
– manassehkatz
7 hours ago
The panel was a working pull from a renovation - they homeowner upgraded the panel for more circuits. As far as I know, there is no problem with the panel as such. It's not the newest tech, but it all seems solid enough. The panel uses bolt-on BQL type breakers.
– Charles Lemon
6 hours ago
Also keep in mind that since you are doing new work, you may need to have AFCI and/or GFCI protection for various circuits.
– manassehkatz
6 hours ago
1
Yep - If I need to buy a few new breakers, that's fine.
– Charles Lemon
6 hours ago
2
@manassehkatz On panels and breakers, ThreePhaseEel is the expert, and just knows this stuff, or has access to all the right resources. Anything I know I learned from TPE.
– Harper
4 hours ago
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I'm in the planning stages of a new workshop/shed build. I plan to run a 60A ciruit from the main panel in the house to a subpanel in the shed.
I recently picked up a used Challenger QM322200 200A breaker panel with about a dozen circuit breakers for a song. Can I use this panel as is, with the stock 200A main breaker as a master shut-off? (I'd relabel the panel as 60A).
If no, where can I find a 60A main breaker to swap into the panel?
Thanks for your help.
circuit-breaker subpanel
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I'm in the planning stages of a new workshop/shed build. I plan to run a 60A ciruit from the main panel in the house to a subpanel in the shed.
I recently picked up a used Challenger QM322200 200A breaker panel with about a dozen circuit breakers for a song. Can I use this panel as is, with the stock 200A main breaker as a master shut-off? (I'd relabel the panel as 60A).
If no, where can I find a 60A main breaker to swap into the panel?
Thanks for your help.
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Harper or one of the other pros will provide more detail, but there are apparently problems with some Challenger breakers. So it may have been cheap because it was somebody's extra, or it may have been cheap because it was junk. List the type of breakers or post a picture and I'm sure the pros can let you know. As far as 200A vs. 60A, assuming there is a 60A breaker in the main panel for the feed to the subpanel, then you can have any size subpanel because the main breaker is a shutoff switch and not needed as an actual safety breaker.
– manassehkatz
7 hours ago
The panel was a working pull from a renovation - they homeowner upgraded the panel for more circuits. As far as I know, there is no problem with the panel as such. It's not the newest tech, but it all seems solid enough. The panel uses bolt-on BQL type breakers.
– Charles Lemon
6 hours ago
Also keep in mind that since you are doing new work, you may need to have AFCI and/or GFCI protection for various circuits.
– manassehkatz
6 hours ago
1
Yep - If I need to buy a few new breakers, that's fine.
– Charles Lemon
6 hours ago
2
@manassehkatz On panels and breakers, ThreePhaseEel is the expert, and just knows this stuff, or has access to all the right resources. Anything I know I learned from TPE.
– Harper
4 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Harper or one of the other pros will provide more detail, but there are apparently problems with some Challenger breakers. So it may have been cheap because it was somebody's extra, or it may have been cheap because it was junk. List the type of breakers or post a picture and I'm sure the pros can let you know. As far as 200A vs. 60A, assuming there is a 60A breaker in the main panel for the feed to the subpanel, then you can have any size subpanel because the main breaker is a shutoff switch and not needed as an actual safety breaker.
– manassehkatz
7 hours ago
The panel was a working pull from a renovation - they homeowner upgraded the panel for more circuits. As far as I know, there is no problem with the panel as such. It's not the newest tech, but it all seems solid enough. The panel uses bolt-on BQL type breakers.
– Charles Lemon
6 hours ago
Also keep in mind that since you are doing new work, you may need to have AFCI and/or GFCI protection for various circuits.
– manassehkatz
6 hours ago
1
Yep - If I need to buy a few new breakers, that's fine.
– Charles Lemon
6 hours ago
2
@manassehkatz On panels and breakers, ThreePhaseEel is the expert, and just knows this stuff, or has access to all the right resources. Anything I know I learned from TPE.
– Harper
4 hours ago
Harper or one of the other pros will provide more detail, but there are apparently problems with some Challenger breakers. So it may have been cheap because it was somebody's extra, or it may have been cheap because it was junk. List the type of breakers or post a picture and I'm sure the pros can let you know. As far as 200A vs. 60A, assuming there is a 60A breaker in the main panel for the feed to the subpanel, then you can have any size subpanel because the main breaker is a shutoff switch and not needed as an actual safety breaker.
– manassehkatz
7 hours ago
Harper or one of the other pros will provide more detail, but there are apparently problems with some Challenger breakers. So it may have been cheap because it was somebody's extra, or it may have been cheap because it was junk. List the type of breakers or post a picture and I'm sure the pros can let you know. As far as 200A vs. 60A, assuming there is a 60A breaker in the main panel for the feed to the subpanel, then you can have any size subpanel because the main breaker is a shutoff switch and not needed as an actual safety breaker.
– manassehkatz
7 hours ago
The panel was a working pull from a renovation - they homeowner upgraded the panel for more circuits. As far as I know, there is no problem with the panel as such. It's not the newest tech, but it all seems solid enough. The panel uses bolt-on BQL type breakers.
– Charles Lemon
6 hours ago
The panel was a working pull from a renovation - they homeowner upgraded the panel for more circuits. As far as I know, there is no problem with the panel as such. It's not the newest tech, but it all seems solid enough. The panel uses bolt-on BQL type breakers.
– Charles Lemon
6 hours ago
Also keep in mind that since you are doing new work, you may need to have AFCI and/or GFCI protection for various circuits.
– manassehkatz
6 hours ago
Also keep in mind that since you are doing new work, you may need to have AFCI and/or GFCI protection for various circuits.
– manassehkatz
6 hours ago
1
1
Yep - If I need to buy a few new breakers, that's fine.
– Charles Lemon
6 hours ago
Yep - If I need to buy a few new breakers, that's fine.
– Charles Lemon
6 hours ago
2
2
@manassehkatz On panels and breakers, ThreePhaseEel is the expert, and just knows this stuff, or has access to all the right resources. Anything I know I learned from TPE.
– Harper
4 hours ago
@manassehkatz On panels and breakers, ThreePhaseEel is the expert, and just knows this stuff, or has access to all the right resources. Anything I know I learned from TPE.
– Harper
4 hours ago
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You can use the 200 amp main as a disconnect it is fine since you will be using a 60 amp breaker in the main panel the wire needs to be sized for 60 amps. As long as the panel is as large as the service panel breaker or larger it would be code compliant.
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You can use the 200 amp main as a disconnect it is fine since you will be using a 60 amp breaker in the main panel the wire needs to be sized for 60 amps. As long as the panel is as large as the service panel breaker or larger it would be code compliant.
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You can use the 200 amp main as a disconnect it is fine since you will be using a 60 amp breaker in the main panel the wire needs to be sized for 60 amps. As long as the panel is as large as the service panel breaker or larger it would be code compliant.
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You can use the 200 amp main as a disconnect it is fine since you will be using a 60 amp breaker in the main panel the wire needs to be sized for 60 amps. As long as the panel is as large as the service panel breaker or larger it would be code compliant.
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You can use the 200 amp main as a disconnect it is fine since you will be using a 60 amp breaker in the main panel the wire needs to be sized for 60 amps. As long as the panel is as large as the service panel breaker or larger it would be code compliant.
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Harper or one of the other pros will provide more detail, but there are apparently problems with some Challenger breakers. So it may have been cheap because it was somebody's extra, or it may have been cheap because it was junk. List the type of breakers or post a picture and I'm sure the pros can let you know. As far as 200A vs. 60A, assuming there is a 60A breaker in the main panel for the feed to the subpanel, then you can have any size subpanel because the main breaker is a shutoff switch and not needed as an actual safety breaker.
– manassehkatz
7 hours ago
The panel was a working pull from a renovation - they homeowner upgraded the panel for more circuits. As far as I know, there is no problem with the panel as such. It's not the newest tech, but it all seems solid enough. The panel uses bolt-on BQL type breakers.
– Charles Lemon
6 hours ago
Also keep in mind that since you are doing new work, you may need to have AFCI and/or GFCI protection for various circuits.
– manassehkatz
6 hours ago
1
Yep - If I need to buy a few new breakers, that's fine.
– Charles Lemon
6 hours ago
2
@manassehkatz On panels and breakers, ThreePhaseEel is the expert, and just knows this stuff, or has access to all the right resources. Anything I know I learned from TPE.
– Harper
4 hours ago