How much memory does alignment use in C?












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I have this program:



__attribute__((section(".graph"))) __attribute__((aligned(16)))
uint16_t FLASH_BUFFER2[FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE];

int main ()
{
printf("Hallo World"n);
}


When I run it, does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 16 bytes in memory?



Edit : The technically correct question is "does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 2 * 16 bytes in memory? (2 for uint16_t and 16 for alignment)"










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    hum, where else do you think it could be?
    – OznOg
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:14










  • I have an embedded system with 1MB available RAM, the FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE is 65536. So this should take the entire memory. They gave me the code like this and I am wondering the same thing as you to be honest.
    – Tasos
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:16








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    I guess this is done on purpose, the memory is certainly handled manually latter. this is probably because you do not have access to standard malloc/free (my guess)
    – OznOg
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:18












  • Hm I do see 1 malloc() call in the code
    – Tasos
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:21










  • obviously here there are not, but I imagine this is just a demonstration sample... that said I'm just trying to guess, the board must have some documentation you may look at to get accurate info.
    – OznOg
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:24
















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I have this program:



__attribute__((section(".graph"))) __attribute__((aligned(16)))
uint16_t FLASH_BUFFER2[FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE];

int main ()
{
printf("Hallo World"n);
}


When I run it, does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 16 bytes in memory?



Edit : The technically correct question is "does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 2 * 16 bytes in memory? (2 for uint16_t and 16 for alignment)"










share|improve this question




















  • 2




    hum, where else do you think it could be?
    – OznOg
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:14










  • I have an embedded system with 1MB available RAM, the FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE is 65536. So this should take the entire memory. They gave me the code like this and I am wondering the same thing as you to be honest.
    – Tasos
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:16








  • 1




    I guess this is done on purpose, the memory is certainly handled manually latter. this is probably because you do not have access to standard malloc/free (my guess)
    – OznOg
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:18












  • Hm I do see 1 malloc() call in the code
    – Tasos
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:21










  • obviously here there are not, but I imagine this is just a demonstration sample... that said I'm just trying to guess, the board must have some documentation you may look at to get accurate info.
    – OznOg
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:24














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I have this program:



__attribute__((section(".graph"))) __attribute__((aligned(16)))
uint16_t FLASH_BUFFER2[FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE];

int main ()
{
printf("Hallo World"n);
}


When I run it, does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 16 bytes in memory?



Edit : The technically correct question is "does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 2 * 16 bytes in memory? (2 for uint16_t and 16 for alignment)"










share|improve this question















I have this program:



__attribute__((section(".graph"))) __attribute__((aligned(16)))
uint16_t FLASH_BUFFER2[FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE];

int main ()
{
printf("Hallo World"n);
}


When I run it, does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 16 bytes in memory?



Edit : The technically correct question is "does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 2 * 16 bytes in memory? (2 for uint16_t and 16 for alignment)"







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    hum, where else do you think it could be?
    – OznOg
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:14










  • I have an embedded system with 1MB available RAM, the FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE is 65536. So this should take the entire memory. They gave me the code like this and I am wondering the same thing as you to be honest.
    – Tasos
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:16








  • 1




    I guess this is done on purpose, the memory is certainly handled manually latter. this is probably because you do not have access to standard malloc/free (my guess)
    – OznOg
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:18












  • Hm I do see 1 malloc() call in the code
    – Tasos
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:21










  • obviously here there are not, but I imagine this is just a demonstration sample... that said I'm just trying to guess, the board must have some documentation you may look at to get accurate info.
    – OznOg
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:24














  • 2




    hum, where else do you think it could be?
    – OznOg
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:14










  • I have an embedded system with 1MB available RAM, the FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE is 65536. So this should take the entire memory. They gave me the code like this and I am wondering the same thing as you to be honest.
    – Tasos
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:16








  • 1




    I guess this is done on purpose, the memory is certainly handled manually latter. this is probably because you do not have access to standard malloc/free (my guess)
    – OznOg
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:18












  • Hm I do see 1 malloc() call in the code
    – Tasos
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:21










  • obviously here there are not, but I imagine this is just a demonstration sample... that said I'm just trying to guess, the board must have some documentation you may look at to get accurate info.
    – OznOg
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:24








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hum, where else do you think it could be?
– OznOg
Nov 21 '18 at 18:14




hum, where else do you think it could be?
– OznOg
Nov 21 '18 at 18:14












I have an embedded system with 1MB available RAM, the FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE is 65536. So this should take the entire memory. They gave me the code like this and I am wondering the same thing as you to be honest.
– Tasos
Nov 21 '18 at 18:16






I have an embedded system with 1MB available RAM, the FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE is 65536. So this should take the entire memory. They gave me the code like this and I am wondering the same thing as you to be honest.
– Tasos
Nov 21 '18 at 18:16






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I guess this is done on purpose, the memory is certainly handled manually latter. this is probably because you do not have access to standard malloc/free (my guess)
– OznOg
Nov 21 '18 at 18:18






I guess this is done on purpose, the memory is certainly handled manually latter. this is probably because you do not have access to standard malloc/free (my guess)
– OznOg
Nov 21 '18 at 18:18














Hm I do see 1 malloc() call in the code
– Tasos
Nov 21 '18 at 18:21




Hm I do see 1 malloc() call in the code
– Tasos
Nov 21 '18 at 18:21












obviously here there are not, but I imagine this is just a demonstration sample... that said I'm just trying to guess, the board must have some documentation you may look at to get accurate info.
– OznOg
Nov 21 '18 at 18:24




obviously here there are not, but I imagine this is just a demonstration sample... that said I'm just trying to guess, the board must have some documentation you may look at to get accurate info.
– OznOg
Nov 21 '18 at 18:24












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No. __attribute__((aligned(16))) just ensures that FLASH_BUFFER2 is put on a 16-byte boundary. It will still reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * sizeof(uint16_t) bytes.



When I've used that attribute in the past, it was because the DMA controller or the mechanism used for writing to/from internal flash memory required that the RAM location be on a 16-byte boundary. Because you are doing this on an embedded system, you could be dealing with the same thing.






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  • It is indeed used to a write to a FLASH and I figured the same reason
    – Tasos
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:54



















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When I run it, does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 16 bytes in memory?




No. Type uint16_t is 16 bits wide, not 16 bytes. Memory is indeed reserved for the array, but its size is FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 2 bytes.



The __attribute__ syntax you present is not part of standard C, so what it means depends on your compiler, but I see no reason whatever to think that it makes the array not actually have memory reserved for it after all, or that it changes the amount of memory reserved. Probably, __attribute__((aligned(16))) simply ensures that the start address of the array is aligned on a 16-byte boundary.






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    No. __attribute__((aligned(16))) just ensures that FLASH_BUFFER2 is put on a 16-byte boundary. It will still reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * sizeof(uint16_t) bytes.



    When I've used that attribute in the past, it was because the DMA controller or the mechanism used for writing to/from internal flash memory required that the RAM location be on a 16-byte boundary. Because you are doing this on an embedded system, you could be dealing with the same thing.






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    • It is indeed used to a write to a FLASH and I figured the same reason
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      Nov 21 '18 at 18:54
















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    No. __attribute__((aligned(16))) just ensures that FLASH_BUFFER2 is put on a 16-byte boundary. It will still reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * sizeof(uint16_t) bytes.



    When I've used that attribute in the past, it was because the DMA controller or the mechanism used for writing to/from internal flash memory required that the RAM location be on a 16-byte boundary. Because you are doing this on an embedded system, you could be dealing with the same thing.






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    • It is indeed used to a write to a FLASH and I figured the same reason
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      Nov 21 '18 at 18:54














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    No. __attribute__((aligned(16))) just ensures that FLASH_BUFFER2 is put on a 16-byte boundary. It will still reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * sizeof(uint16_t) bytes.



    When I've used that attribute in the past, it was because the DMA controller or the mechanism used for writing to/from internal flash memory required that the RAM location be on a 16-byte boundary. Because you are doing this on an embedded system, you could be dealing with the same thing.






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    No. __attribute__((aligned(16))) just ensures that FLASH_BUFFER2 is put on a 16-byte boundary. It will still reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * sizeof(uint16_t) bytes.



    When I've used that attribute in the past, it was because the DMA controller or the mechanism used for writing to/from internal flash memory required that the RAM location be on a 16-byte boundary. Because you are doing this on an embedded system, you could be dealing with the same thing.







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    • It is indeed used to a write to a FLASH and I figured the same reason
      – Tasos
      Nov 21 '18 at 18:54


















    • It is indeed used to a write to a FLASH and I figured the same reason
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      Nov 21 '18 at 18:54
















    It is indeed used to a write to a FLASH and I figured the same reason
    – Tasos
    Nov 21 '18 at 18:54




    It is indeed used to a write to a FLASH and I figured the same reason
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    When I run it, does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 16 bytes in memory?




    No. Type uint16_t is 16 bits wide, not 16 bytes. Memory is indeed reserved for the array, but its size is FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 2 bytes.



    The __attribute__ syntax you present is not part of standard C, so what it means depends on your compiler, but I see no reason whatever to think that it makes the array not actually have memory reserved for it after all, or that it changes the amount of memory reserved. Probably, __attribute__((aligned(16))) simply ensures that the start address of the array is aligned on a 16-byte boundary.






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      When I run it, does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 16 bytes in memory?




      No. Type uint16_t is 16 bits wide, not 16 bytes. Memory is indeed reserved for the array, but its size is FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 2 bytes.



      The __attribute__ syntax you present is not part of standard C, so what it means depends on your compiler, but I see no reason whatever to think that it makes the array not actually have memory reserved for it after all, or that it changes the amount of memory reserved. Probably, __attribute__((aligned(16))) simply ensures that the start address of the array is aligned on a 16-byte boundary.






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        When I run it, does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 16 bytes in memory?




        No. Type uint16_t is 16 bits wide, not 16 bytes. Memory is indeed reserved for the array, but its size is FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 2 bytes.



        The __attribute__ syntax you present is not part of standard C, so what it means depends on your compiler, but I see no reason whatever to think that it makes the array not actually have memory reserved for it after all, or that it changes the amount of memory reserved. Probably, __attribute__((aligned(16))) simply ensures that the start address of the array is aligned on a 16-byte boundary.






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        When I run it, does it reserve FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 16 bytes in memory?




        No. Type uint16_t is 16 bits wide, not 16 bytes. Memory is indeed reserved for the array, but its size is FLASH_SECTOR_SIZE * 2 bytes.



        The __attribute__ syntax you present is not part of standard C, so what it means depends on your compiler, but I see no reason whatever to think that it makes the array not actually have memory reserved for it after all, or that it changes the amount of memory reserved. Probably, __attribute__((aligned(16))) simply ensures that the start address of the array is aligned on a 16-byte boundary.







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