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In The Ancestor's Tale, evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins makes the following statement about sexual dimorphism:




Our sexual dimporhism is moderate but undeniable. Lots of women are taller than lots of men, but the tallest men are taller than the tallest women. Lots of women can run faster, lift heavier weights, throw javelins further, play better tennis, than lots of men. But for humans, unlike for racehorses, the underlying sexual dimorphism precludes sex-blind open competition at the top level in almost any sport you care to name. In most physical sports, every single one of the world’s top hundred men would beat every single one of the world’s top hundred women.




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  • You should look up male variability hypothesis and why it's important for the top 100 of anything
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In The Ancestor's Tale, evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins makes the following statement about sexual dimorphism:




Our sexual dimporhism is moderate but undeniable. Lots of women are taller than lots of men, but the tallest men are taller than the tallest women. Lots of women can run faster, lift heavier weights, throw javelins further, play better tennis, than lots of men. But for humans, unlike for racehorses, the underlying sexual dimorphism precludes sex-blind open competition at the top level in almost any sport you care to name. In most physical sports, every single one of the world’s top hundred men would beat every single one of the world’s top hundred women.




I wonder if this has been backed up with a proper data.










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In The Ancestor's Tale, evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins makes the following statement about sexual dimorphism:




Our sexual dimporhism is moderate but undeniable. Lots of women are taller than lots of men, but the tallest men are taller than the tallest women. Lots of women can run faster, lift heavier weights, throw javelins further, play better tennis, than lots of men. But for humans, unlike for racehorses, the underlying sexual dimorphism precludes sex-blind open competition at the top level in almost any sport you care to name. In most physical sports, every single one of the world’s top hundred men would beat every single one of the world’s top hundred women.




I wonder if this has been backed up with a proper data.










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In The Ancestor's Tale, evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins makes the following statement about sexual dimorphism:




Our sexual dimporhism is moderate but undeniable. Lots of women are taller than lots of men, but the tallest men are taller than the tallest women. Lots of women can run faster, lift heavier weights, throw javelins further, play better tennis, than lots of men. But for humans, unlike for racehorses, the underlying sexual dimorphism precludes sex-blind open competition at the top level in almost any sport you care to name. In most physical sports, every single one of the world’s top hundred men would beat every single one of the world’s top hundred women.




I wonder if this has been backed up with a proper data.







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  • You should look up male variability hypothesis and why it's important for the top 100 of anything
    – K Dog
    39 mins ago










  • en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis
    – K Dog
    33 mins ago


















  • You should look up male variability hypothesis and why it's important for the top 100 of anything
    – K Dog
    39 mins ago










  • en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis
    – K Dog
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You should look up male variability hypothesis and why it's important for the top 100 of anything
– K Dog
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You should look up male variability hypothesis and why it's important for the top 100 of anything
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis
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Expanding on Xen2050's information, the wikipedia List of Olympic records page has links to each individual sport, listing the top 25 results by gender. I've compiled the information showing the 25th-best men's result vs. the best women's result. (I skipped the 110m hurdles since they are not directly comparable.) This does not prove the claim (top 100 men vs. top 100 women) but it does give a better feel for the discrepancy between genders in the results:



Sport:              25th-ranked men's result:   top-ranked women's result:
100m 9.87 10.49
200m 19.80 21.34
400m 44.10 47.60
800m 1:42.81 1:53.28
1500m 3:29.59 3:50.07
5000m 12:51.00 14:11.15
10000m 26:49.94 29:17.45
Marathon 2:04:32 2:15:25
400m Hurdle 47.67 52.34
3000m Steeplechase 8:04.95 8:44.32
4x100 Relay 37.58 (*) 40.82
4x400 Relay 2:57.87 3:15.17
20k Walk 1:18:06 1:23:39
50k Walk 3:36:20 (**) 4:05:56
High Jump 2.38m 2.09m
Long Jump 8.51m 7.52m
Pole Vault 5.98m 5.06m
Triple Jump 17.75m 15.50m
Shot Put 22.08m 22.63m (would get 10th place on men's listing)
Discus Throw (+) 69.95m 76.80m (would get 1st place on men's listing)
Hammer Throw 82.54m 82.98m (would get 19th place on men's listing)
Javelin Throw 89.02m 72.28m
Decathlon 8663 points 8358 points


notes:

(*): 20th-place result; lower results not available

(**): 10th-place result; lower results not available

(+): the men's discus weighs 2kg and is 22cm in diameter, while the women's discus weighs 1kg and is 18cm in diameter, so these results really are not directly comparable.



(The shots, hammers and javelins are also lighter for the women's events.)






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  • The US high-school records for men are almost all better, and the women's records wouldn't even have won many of the events (especially sprints and middle distance) at the latest high school nationals. There are certainly more than 100 elite male athletes in the world with better than HS performance.
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  • Excellent answer +1, a little closer to the core of the kind-of-weird & arbitrary 100th vs 1st claim. Google & the Olympic website weren't cooperating with my searches to find the top xx results per game, but these are great too. And I didn't even notice the discus' & other thrown items were lighter for women (the shot weighing half as much)
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The fuller quote is talking about "the top level in almost any sport," and that's almost the literal definition of the Olympics, where more than 100 of the top athletes compete.



Here's the events & their records from Wikipedia's List of Olympic records in athletics, I'll try formatting them by sport, with the mens & women's records side-by-side for easier comparison:



                              Records
Event Men's Women's
===== ===== =======
100m 9.63 10.62
200 metres 19.30 ♦21.34
400 metres ♦43.03 48.25
800 metres ♦1:40.91 1:53.43
1,500 metres 3:32.07 3:53.96
5,000 metres 12:57.82 14:26.17
10,000 metres 27:01.17 ♦29:17.45
Marathon 2:06:32 2:23:07
110 metres hurdles 12.91 12.35
* only 100m hurdles for women
400 metres hurdles ♦46.78 52.64
3,000 m steeplechase 8:03.28 8:58.81
4×100 m relay ♦36.84 ♦40.82
4×400 m relay 2:55.39 ♦3:15.17
20 km walk 1:18:46 1:25:02
High jump 2.39 m 2.06 m
Long jump 8.90 m 7.40 m
Pole vault 6.03 m 5.05 m
Triple jump 18.09 m 15.39 m
Shot put 22.52 m 22.41 m
* men's shot weighs 16 lb, women's 8.8 lb
Discus throw 69.89 m 72.30 m
* men's weigh 2kg/4.4 lb, women's 1kg/2.2 lb
Hammer throw 84.80 m 82.29 m
* men's weigh 16 lb, women's 8.82 lb
Javelin throw 90.57 m 71.53 m
* men's weigh 800g/1.76 lb, women's 600g/1.32 lb
Decathlon 8893 pts ♦7291 pts

(♦ denotes a performance that is also a current world record.
Statistics are correct as of 19 August 2016.)


It appears that the men's records are faster/longer for everything except the discus throw. The statement appears to hold up for almost all Olympic events.






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    This shows that the top male athlete could beat the top female athlete. It doesn't match the claim - that even the 100th "best" male athlete could beat the top female athletes.
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    Some reasons to reject your argument: 1) You don't make it in the answer. 2) Olympics do not include "most sports" - which is a big problem with the question being vague, and I am struggling with how to deal with it. 3) 7.7 billion people don't play any particular sport. If the sport has only 1000 players, the chance of the claim being true is much higher.
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    It is a particularly strange quote, claiming that out of the top 100 athletes in "almost any / most sports", that every man would beat every women... but the Olympic records are well verified and recorded and easily compared, probably the best "data" available, I don't know where to find the top 10 or top 100 Olympic results, but I would be skeptical if they were significantly different from the top records
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The question can not be honestly answered as it is stated remarkably imprecise ( in more than two instances ).



Success in "sport" disciplines depend on sportive qualities that are distinct from each other ranging from fast strategic thinking (chess) over teamwork (i.e. climbing, ice-stick shooting, curling and alike team sports) to athletic capabilities.



While many of these qualities are not tangled to sex, muscular strength, fast power and endurance performance are.

There are physiological differences in muscular composition between males and females in homo sapiens that are rooted in sex driven hormonal differences that beside direct impact interact in various ways with growth and motoric ability. Some of these sex differences might be overcome by hormonal substitution combined with training at least in young fit individuals (this is because the bone composition / tendonous apparatus needs to adapt to muscular strength and the timeframe for bone composition change is early in lifespan).



Therefore only in "sports" that depend foremost on power of the muscular skeletal system in a challenge of comparable conditioned man and women, the males are unlikely to be beaten even by exceptional strong females i.e. olympic weightlifting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_weightlifting)






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    Expanding on Xen2050's information, the wikipedia List of Olympic records page has links to each individual sport, listing the top 25 results by gender. I've compiled the information showing the 25th-best men's result vs. the best women's result. (I skipped the 110m hurdles since they are not directly comparable.) This does not prove the claim (top 100 men vs. top 100 women) but it does give a better feel for the discrepancy between genders in the results:



    Sport:              25th-ranked men's result:   top-ranked women's result:
    100m 9.87 10.49
    200m 19.80 21.34
    400m 44.10 47.60
    800m 1:42.81 1:53.28
    1500m 3:29.59 3:50.07
    5000m 12:51.00 14:11.15
    10000m 26:49.94 29:17.45
    Marathon 2:04:32 2:15:25
    400m Hurdle 47.67 52.34
    3000m Steeplechase 8:04.95 8:44.32
    4x100 Relay 37.58 (*) 40.82
    4x400 Relay 2:57.87 3:15.17
    20k Walk 1:18:06 1:23:39
    50k Walk 3:36:20 (**) 4:05:56
    High Jump 2.38m 2.09m
    Long Jump 8.51m 7.52m
    Pole Vault 5.98m 5.06m
    Triple Jump 17.75m 15.50m
    Shot Put 22.08m 22.63m (would get 10th place on men's listing)
    Discus Throw (+) 69.95m 76.80m (would get 1st place on men's listing)
    Hammer Throw 82.54m 82.98m (would get 19th place on men's listing)
    Javelin Throw 89.02m 72.28m
    Decathlon 8663 points 8358 points


    notes:

    (*): 20th-place result; lower results not available

    (**): 10th-place result; lower results not available

    (+): the men's discus weighs 2kg and is 22cm in diameter, while the women's discus weighs 1kg and is 18cm in diameter, so these results really are not directly comparable.



    (The shots, hammers and javelins are also lighter for the women's events.)






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    • The US high-school records for men are almost all better, and the women's records wouldn't even have won many of the events (especially sprints and middle distance) at the latest high school nationals. There are certainly more than 100 elite male athletes in the world with better than HS performance.
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    • Excellent answer +1, a little closer to the core of the kind-of-weird & arbitrary 100th vs 1st claim. Google & the Olympic website weren't cooperating with my searches to find the top xx results per game, but these are great too. And I didn't even notice the discus' & other thrown items were lighter for women (the shot weighing half as much)
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    Expanding on Xen2050's information, the wikipedia List of Olympic records page has links to each individual sport, listing the top 25 results by gender. I've compiled the information showing the 25th-best men's result vs. the best women's result. (I skipped the 110m hurdles since they are not directly comparable.) This does not prove the claim (top 100 men vs. top 100 women) but it does give a better feel for the discrepancy between genders in the results:



    Sport:              25th-ranked men's result:   top-ranked women's result:
    100m 9.87 10.49
    200m 19.80 21.34
    400m 44.10 47.60
    800m 1:42.81 1:53.28
    1500m 3:29.59 3:50.07
    5000m 12:51.00 14:11.15
    10000m 26:49.94 29:17.45
    Marathon 2:04:32 2:15:25
    400m Hurdle 47.67 52.34
    3000m Steeplechase 8:04.95 8:44.32
    4x100 Relay 37.58 (*) 40.82
    4x400 Relay 2:57.87 3:15.17
    20k Walk 1:18:06 1:23:39
    50k Walk 3:36:20 (**) 4:05:56
    High Jump 2.38m 2.09m
    Long Jump 8.51m 7.52m
    Pole Vault 5.98m 5.06m
    Triple Jump 17.75m 15.50m
    Shot Put 22.08m 22.63m (would get 10th place on men's listing)
    Discus Throw (+) 69.95m 76.80m (would get 1st place on men's listing)
    Hammer Throw 82.54m 82.98m (would get 19th place on men's listing)
    Javelin Throw 89.02m 72.28m
    Decathlon 8663 points 8358 points


    notes:

    (*): 20th-place result; lower results not available

    (**): 10th-place result; lower results not available

    (+): the men's discus weighs 2kg and is 22cm in diameter, while the women's discus weighs 1kg and is 18cm in diameter, so these results really are not directly comparable.



    (The shots, hammers and javelins are also lighter for the women's events.)






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    • The US high-school records for men are almost all better, and the women's records wouldn't even have won many of the events (especially sprints and middle distance) at the latest high school nationals. There are certainly more than 100 elite male athletes in the world with better than HS performance.
      – Kevin
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    • Excellent answer +1, a little closer to the core of the kind-of-weird & arbitrary 100th vs 1st claim. Google & the Olympic website weren't cooperating with my searches to find the top xx results per game, but these are great too. And I didn't even notice the discus' & other thrown items were lighter for women (the shot weighing half as much)
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    Expanding on Xen2050's information, the wikipedia List of Olympic records page has links to each individual sport, listing the top 25 results by gender. I've compiled the information showing the 25th-best men's result vs. the best women's result. (I skipped the 110m hurdles since they are not directly comparable.) This does not prove the claim (top 100 men vs. top 100 women) but it does give a better feel for the discrepancy between genders in the results:



    Sport:              25th-ranked men's result:   top-ranked women's result:
    100m 9.87 10.49
    200m 19.80 21.34
    400m 44.10 47.60
    800m 1:42.81 1:53.28
    1500m 3:29.59 3:50.07
    5000m 12:51.00 14:11.15
    10000m 26:49.94 29:17.45
    Marathon 2:04:32 2:15:25
    400m Hurdle 47.67 52.34
    3000m Steeplechase 8:04.95 8:44.32
    4x100 Relay 37.58 (*) 40.82
    4x400 Relay 2:57.87 3:15.17
    20k Walk 1:18:06 1:23:39
    50k Walk 3:36:20 (**) 4:05:56
    High Jump 2.38m 2.09m
    Long Jump 8.51m 7.52m
    Pole Vault 5.98m 5.06m
    Triple Jump 17.75m 15.50m
    Shot Put 22.08m 22.63m (would get 10th place on men's listing)
    Discus Throw (+) 69.95m 76.80m (would get 1st place on men's listing)
    Hammer Throw 82.54m 82.98m (would get 19th place on men's listing)
    Javelin Throw 89.02m 72.28m
    Decathlon 8663 points 8358 points


    notes:

    (*): 20th-place result; lower results not available

    (**): 10th-place result; lower results not available

    (+): the men's discus weighs 2kg and is 22cm in diameter, while the women's discus weighs 1kg and is 18cm in diameter, so these results really are not directly comparable.



    (The shots, hammers and javelins are also lighter for the women's events.)






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    Expanding on Xen2050's information, the wikipedia List of Olympic records page has links to each individual sport, listing the top 25 results by gender. I've compiled the information showing the 25th-best men's result vs. the best women's result. (I skipped the 110m hurdles since they are not directly comparable.) This does not prove the claim (top 100 men vs. top 100 women) but it does give a better feel for the discrepancy between genders in the results:



    Sport:              25th-ranked men's result:   top-ranked women's result:
    100m 9.87 10.49
    200m 19.80 21.34
    400m 44.10 47.60
    800m 1:42.81 1:53.28
    1500m 3:29.59 3:50.07
    5000m 12:51.00 14:11.15
    10000m 26:49.94 29:17.45
    Marathon 2:04:32 2:15:25
    400m Hurdle 47.67 52.34
    3000m Steeplechase 8:04.95 8:44.32
    4x100 Relay 37.58 (*) 40.82
    4x400 Relay 2:57.87 3:15.17
    20k Walk 1:18:06 1:23:39
    50k Walk 3:36:20 (**) 4:05:56
    High Jump 2.38m 2.09m
    Long Jump 8.51m 7.52m
    Pole Vault 5.98m 5.06m
    Triple Jump 17.75m 15.50m
    Shot Put 22.08m 22.63m (would get 10th place on men's listing)
    Discus Throw (+) 69.95m 76.80m (would get 1st place on men's listing)
    Hammer Throw 82.54m 82.98m (would get 19th place on men's listing)
    Javelin Throw 89.02m 72.28m
    Decathlon 8663 points 8358 points


    notes:

    (*): 20th-place result; lower results not available

    (**): 10th-place result; lower results not available

    (+): the men's discus weighs 2kg and is 22cm in diameter, while the women's discus weighs 1kg and is 18cm in diameter, so these results really are not directly comparable.



    (The shots, hammers and javelins are also lighter for the women's events.)







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    • The US high-school records for men are almost all better, and the women's records wouldn't even have won many of the events (especially sprints and middle distance) at the latest high school nationals. There are certainly more than 100 elite male athletes in the world with better than HS performance.
      – Kevin
      1 hour ago












    • Excellent answer +1, a little closer to the core of the kind-of-weird & arbitrary 100th vs 1st claim. Google & the Olympic website weren't cooperating with my searches to find the top xx results per game, but these are great too. And I didn't even notice the discus' & other thrown items were lighter for women (the shot weighing half as much)
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    • The US high-school records for men are almost all better, and the women's records wouldn't even have won many of the events (especially sprints and middle distance) at the latest high school nationals. There are certainly more than 100 elite male athletes in the world with better than HS performance.
      – Kevin
      1 hour ago












    • Excellent answer +1, a little closer to the core of the kind-of-weird & arbitrary 100th vs 1st claim. Google & the Olympic website weren't cooperating with my searches to find the top xx results per game, but these are great too. And I didn't even notice the discus' & other thrown items were lighter for women (the shot weighing half as much)
      – Xen2050
      1 hour ago
















    The US high-school records for men are almost all better, and the women's records wouldn't even have won many of the events (especially sprints and middle distance) at the latest high school nationals. There are certainly more than 100 elite male athletes in the world with better than HS performance.
    – Kevin
    1 hour ago






    The US high-school records for men are almost all better, and the women's records wouldn't even have won many of the events (especially sprints and middle distance) at the latest high school nationals. There are certainly more than 100 elite male athletes in the world with better than HS performance.
    – Kevin
    1 hour ago














    Excellent answer +1, a little closer to the core of the kind-of-weird & arbitrary 100th vs 1st claim. Google & the Olympic website weren't cooperating with my searches to find the top xx results per game, but these are great too. And I didn't even notice the discus' & other thrown items were lighter for women (the shot weighing half as much)
    – Xen2050
    1 hour ago




    Excellent answer +1, a little closer to the core of the kind-of-weird & arbitrary 100th vs 1st claim. Google & the Olympic website weren't cooperating with my searches to find the top xx results per game, but these are great too. And I didn't even notice the discus' & other thrown items were lighter for women (the shot weighing half as much)
    – Xen2050
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    The fuller quote is talking about "the top level in almost any sport," and that's almost the literal definition of the Olympics, where more than 100 of the top athletes compete.



    Here's the events & their records from Wikipedia's List of Olympic records in athletics, I'll try formatting them by sport, with the mens & women's records side-by-side for easier comparison:



                                  Records
    Event Men's Women's
    ===== ===== =======
    100m 9.63 10.62
    200 metres 19.30 ♦21.34
    400 metres ♦43.03 48.25
    800 metres ♦1:40.91 1:53.43
    1,500 metres 3:32.07 3:53.96
    5,000 metres 12:57.82 14:26.17
    10,000 metres 27:01.17 ♦29:17.45
    Marathon 2:06:32 2:23:07
    110 metres hurdles 12.91 12.35
    * only 100m hurdles for women
    400 metres hurdles ♦46.78 52.64
    3,000 m steeplechase 8:03.28 8:58.81
    4×100 m relay ♦36.84 ♦40.82
    4×400 m relay 2:55.39 ♦3:15.17
    20 km walk 1:18:46 1:25:02
    High jump 2.39 m 2.06 m
    Long jump 8.90 m 7.40 m
    Pole vault 6.03 m 5.05 m
    Triple jump 18.09 m 15.39 m
    Shot put 22.52 m 22.41 m
    * men's shot weighs 16 lb, women's 8.8 lb
    Discus throw 69.89 m 72.30 m
    * men's weigh 2kg/4.4 lb, women's 1kg/2.2 lb
    Hammer throw 84.80 m 82.29 m
    * men's weigh 16 lb, women's 8.82 lb
    Javelin throw 90.57 m 71.53 m
    * men's weigh 800g/1.76 lb, women's 600g/1.32 lb
    Decathlon 8893 pts ♦7291 pts

    (♦ denotes a performance that is also a current world record.
    Statistics are correct as of 19 August 2016.)


    It appears that the men's records are faster/longer for everything except the discus throw. The statement appears to hold up for almost all Olympic events.






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      This shows that the top male athlete could beat the top female athlete. It doesn't match the claim - that even the 100th "best" male athlete could beat the top female athletes.
      – Oddthinking
      3 hours ago










    • Welcome to Skeptics! - please show us the evidence.
      – Oddthinking
      3 hours ago






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      Some reasons to reject your argument: 1) You don't make it in the answer. 2) Olympics do not include "most sports" - which is a big problem with the question being vague, and I am struggling with how to deal with it. 3) 7.7 billion people don't play any particular sport. If the sport has only 1000 players, the chance of the claim being true is much higher.
      – Oddthinking
      3 hours ago








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      It is a particularly strange quote, claiming that out of the top 100 athletes in "almost any / most sports", that every man would beat every women... but the Olympic records are well verified and recorded and easily compared, probably the best "data" available, I don't know where to find the top 10 or top 100 Olympic results, but I would be skeptical if they were significantly different from the top records
      – Xen2050
      3 hours ago
















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    The fuller quote is talking about "the top level in almost any sport," and that's almost the literal definition of the Olympics, where more than 100 of the top athletes compete.



    Here's the events & their records from Wikipedia's List of Olympic records in athletics, I'll try formatting them by sport, with the mens & women's records side-by-side for easier comparison:



                                  Records
    Event Men's Women's
    ===== ===== =======
    100m 9.63 10.62
    200 metres 19.30 ♦21.34
    400 metres ♦43.03 48.25
    800 metres ♦1:40.91 1:53.43
    1,500 metres 3:32.07 3:53.96
    5,000 metres 12:57.82 14:26.17
    10,000 metres 27:01.17 ♦29:17.45
    Marathon 2:06:32 2:23:07
    110 metres hurdles 12.91 12.35
    * only 100m hurdles for women
    400 metres hurdles ♦46.78 52.64
    3,000 m steeplechase 8:03.28 8:58.81
    4×100 m relay ♦36.84 ♦40.82
    4×400 m relay 2:55.39 ♦3:15.17
    20 km walk 1:18:46 1:25:02
    High jump 2.39 m 2.06 m
    Long jump 8.90 m 7.40 m
    Pole vault 6.03 m 5.05 m
    Triple jump 18.09 m 15.39 m
    Shot put 22.52 m 22.41 m
    * men's shot weighs 16 lb, women's 8.8 lb
    Discus throw 69.89 m 72.30 m
    * men's weigh 2kg/4.4 lb, women's 1kg/2.2 lb
    Hammer throw 84.80 m 82.29 m
    * men's weigh 16 lb, women's 8.82 lb
    Javelin throw 90.57 m 71.53 m
    * men's weigh 800g/1.76 lb, women's 600g/1.32 lb
    Decathlon 8893 pts ♦7291 pts

    (♦ denotes a performance that is also a current world record.
    Statistics are correct as of 19 August 2016.)


    It appears that the men's records are faster/longer for everything except the discus throw. The statement appears to hold up for almost all Olympic events.






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    • 4




      This shows that the top male athlete could beat the top female athlete. It doesn't match the claim - that even the 100th "best" male athlete could beat the top female athletes.
      – Oddthinking
      3 hours ago










    • Welcome to Skeptics! - please show us the evidence.
      – Oddthinking
      3 hours ago






    • 1




      Some reasons to reject your argument: 1) You don't make it in the answer. 2) Olympics do not include "most sports" - which is a big problem with the question being vague, and I am struggling with how to deal with it. 3) 7.7 billion people don't play any particular sport. If the sport has only 1000 players, the chance of the claim being true is much higher.
      – Oddthinking
      3 hours ago








    • 2




      It is a particularly strange quote, claiming that out of the top 100 athletes in "almost any / most sports", that every man would beat every women... but the Olympic records are well verified and recorded and easily compared, probably the best "data" available, I don't know where to find the top 10 or top 100 Olympic results, but I would be skeptical if they were significantly different from the top records
      – Xen2050
      3 hours ago














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    The fuller quote is talking about "the top level in almost any sport," and that's almost the literal definition of the Olympics, where more than 100 of the top athletes compete.



    Here's the events & their records from Wikipedia's List of Olympic records in athletics, I'll try formatting them by sport, with the mens & women's records side-by-side for easier comparison:



                                  Records
    Event Men's Women's
    ===== ===== =======
    100m 9.63 10.62
    200 metres 19.30 ♦21.34
    400 metres ♦43.03 48.25
    800 metres ♦1:40.91 1:53.43
    1,500 metres 3:32.07 3:53.96
    5,000 metres 12:57.82 14:26.17
    10,000 metres 27:01.17 ♦29:17.45
    Marathon 2:06:32 2:23:07
    110 metres hurdles 12.91 12.35
    * only 100m hurdles for women
    400 metres hurdles ♦46.78 52.64
    3,000 m steeplechase 8:03.28 8:58.81
    4×100 m relay ♦36.84 ♦40.82
    4×400 m relay 2:55.39 ♦3:15.17
    20 km walk 1:18:46 1:25:02
    High jump 2.39 m 2.06 m
    Long jump 8.90 m 7.40 m
    Pole vault 6.03 m 5.05 m
    Triple jump 18.09 m 15.39 m
    Shot put 22.52 m 22.41 m
    * men's shot weighs 16 lb, women's 8.8 lb
    Discus throw 69.89 m 72.30 m
    * men's weigh 2kg/4.4 lb, women's 1kg/2.2 lb
    Hammer throw 84.80 m 82.29 m
    * men's weigh 16 lb, women's 8.82 lb
    Javelin throw 90.57 m 71.53 m
    * men's weigh 800g/1.76 lb, women's 600g/1.32 lb
    Decathlon 8893 pts ♦7291 pts

    (♦ denotes a performance that is also a current world record.
    Statistics are correct as of 19 August 2016.)


    It appears that the men's records are faster/longer for everything except the discus throw. The statement appears to hold up for almost all Olympic events.






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    The fuller quote is talking about "the top level in almost any sport," and that's almost the literal definition of the Olympics, where more than 100 of the top athletes compete.



    Here's the events & their records from Wikipedia's List of Olympic records in athletics, I'll try formatting them by sport, with the mens & women's records side-by-side for easier comparison:



                                  Records
    Event Men's Women's
    ===== ===== =======
    100m 9.63 10.62
    200 metres 19.30 ♦21.34
    400 metres ♦43.03 48.25
    800 metres ♦1:40.91 1:53.43
    1,500 metres 3:32.07 3:53.96
    5,000 metres 12:57.82 14:26.17
    10,000 metres 27:01.17 ♦29:17.45
    Marathon 2:06:32 2:23:07
    110 metres hurdles 12.91 12.35
    * only 100m hurdles for women
    400 metres hurdles ♦46.78 52.64
    3,000 m steeplechase 8:03.28 8:58.81
    4×100 m relay ♦36.84 ♦40.82
    4×400 m relay 2:55.39 ♦3:15.17
    20 km walk 1:18:46 1:25:02
    High jump 2.39 m 2.06 m
    Long jump 8.90 m 7.40 m
    Pole vault 6.03 m 5.05 m
    Triple jump 18.09 m 15.39 m
    Shot put 22.52 m 22.41 m
    * men's shot weighs 16 lb, women's 8.8 lb
    Discus throw 69.89 m 72.30 m
    * men's weigh 2kg/4.4 lb, women's 1kg/2.2 lb
    Hammer throw 84.80 m 82.29 m
    * men's weigh 16 lb, women's 8.82 lb
    Javelin throw 90.57 m 71.53 m
    * men's weigh 800g/1.76 lb, women's 600g/1.32 lb
    Decathlon 8893 pts ♦7291 pts

    (♦ denotes a performance that is also a current world record.
    Statistics are correct as of 19 August 2016.)


    It appears that the men's records are faster/longer for everything except the discus throw. The statement appears to hold up for almost all Olympic events.







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    • 4




      This shows that the top male athlete could beat the top female athlete. It doesn't match the claim - that even the 100th "best" male athlete could beat the top female athletes.
      – Oddthinking
      3 hours ago










    • Welcome to Skeptics! - please show us the evidence.
      – Oddthinking
      3 hours ago






    • 1




      Some reasons to reject your argument: 1) You don't make it in the answer. 2) Olympics do not include "most sports" - which is a big problem with the question being vague, and I am struggling with how to deal with it. 3) 7.7 billion people don't play any particular sport. If the sport has only 1000 players, the chance of the claim being true is much higher.
      – Oddthinking
      3 hours ago








    • 2




      It is a particularly strange quote, claiming that out of the top 100 athletes in "almost any / most sports", that every man would beat every women... but the Olympic records are well verified and recorded and easily compared, probably the best "data" available, I don't know where to find the top 10 or top 100 Olympic results, but I would be skeptical if they were significantly different from the top records
      – Xen2050
      3 hours ago














    • 4




      This shows that the top male athlete could beat the top female athlete. It doesn't match the claim - that even the 100th "best" male athlete could beat the top female athletes.
      – Oddthinking
      3 hours ago










    • Welcome to Skeptics! - please show us the evidence.
      – Oddthinking
      3 hours ago






    • 1




      Some reasons to reject your argument: 1) You don't make it in the answer. 2) Olympics do not include "most sports" - which is a big problem with the question being vague, and I am struggling with how to deal with it. 3) 7.7 billion people don't play any particular sport. If the sport has only 1000 players, the chance of the claim being true is much higher.
      – Oddthinking
      3 hours ago








    • 2




      It is a particularly strange quote, claiming that out of the top 100 athletes in "almost any / most sports", that every man would beat every women... but the Olympic records are well verified and recorded and easily compared, probably the best "data" available, I don't know where to find the top 10 or top 100 Olympic results, but I would be skeptical if they were significantly different from the top records
      – Xen2050
      3 hours ago








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    This shows that the top male athlete could beat the top female athlete. It doesn't match the claim - that even the 100th "best" male athlete could beat the top female athletes.
    – Oddthinking
    3 hours ago




    This shows that the top male athlete could beat the top female athlete. It doesn't match the claim - that even the 100th "best" male athlete could beat the top female athletes.
    – Oddthinking
    3 hours ago












    Welcome to Skeptics! - please show us the evidence.
    – Oddthinking
    3 hours ago




    Welcome to Skeptics! - please show us the evidence.
    – Oddthinking
    3 hours ago




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    Some reasons to reject your argument: 1) You don't make it in the answer. 2) Olympics do not include "most sports" - which is a big problem with the question being vague, and I am struggling with how to deal with it. 3) 7.7 billion people don't play any particular sport. If the sport has only 1000 players, the chance of the claim being true is much higher.
    – Oddthinking
    3 hours ago






    Some reasons to reject your argument: 1) You don't make it in the answer. 2) Olympics do not include "most sports" - which is a big problem with the question being vague, and I am struggling with how to deal with it. 3) 7.7 billion people don't play any particular sport. If the sport has only 1000 players, the chance of the claim being true is much higher.
    – Oddthinking
    3 hours ago






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    It is a particularly strange quote, claiming that out of the top 100 athletes in "almost any / most sports", that every man would beat every women... but the Olympic records are well verified and recorded and easily compared, probably the best "data" available, I don't know where to find the top 10 or top 100 Olympic results, but I would be skeptical if they were significantly different from the top records
    – Xen2050
    3 hours ago




    It is a particularly strange quote, claiming that out of the top 100 athletes in "almost any / most sports", that every man would beat every women... but the Olympic records are well verified and recorded and easily compared, probably the best "data" available, I don't know where to find the top 10 or top 100 Olympic results, but I would be skeptical if they were significantly different from the top records
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    3 hours ago











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    The question can not be honestly answered as it is stated remarkably imprecise ( in more than two instances ).



    Success in "sport" disciplines depend on sportive qualities that are distinct from each other ranging from fast strategic thinking (chess) over teamwork (i.e. climbing, ice-stick shooting, curling and alike team sports) to athletic capabilities.



    While many of these qualities are not tangled to sex, muscular strength, fast power and endurance performance are.

    There are physiological differences in muscular composition between males and females in homo sapiens that are rooted in sex driven hormonal differences that beside direct impact interact in various ways with growth and motoric ability. Some of these sex differences might be overcome by hormonal substitution combined with training at least in young fit individuals (this is because the bone composition / tendonous apparatus needs to adapt to muscular strength and the timeframe for bone composition change is early in lifespan).



    Therefore only in "sports" that depend foremost on power of the muscular skeletal system in a challenge of comparable conditioned man and women, the males are unlikely to be beaten even by exceptional strong females i.e. olympic weightlifting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_weightlifting)






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      The question can not be honestly answered as it is stated remarkably imprecise ( in more than two instances ).



      Success in "sport" disciplines depend on sportive qualities that are distinct from each other ranging from fast strategic thinking (chess) over teamwork (i.e. climbing, ice-stick shooting, curling and alike team sports) to athletic capabilities.



      While many of these qualities are not tangled to sex, muscular strength, fast power and endurance performance are.

      There are physiological differences in muscular composition between males and females in homo sapiens that are rooted in sex driven hormonal differences that beside direct impact interact in various ways with growth and motoric ability. Some of these sex differences might be overcome by hormonal substitution combined with training at least in young fit individuals (this is because the bone composition / tendonous apparatus needs to adapt to muscular strength and the timeframe for bone composition change is early in lifespan).



      Therefore only in "sports" that depend foremost on power of the muscular skeletal system in a challenge of comparable conditioned man and women, the males are unlikely to be beaten even by exceptional strong females i.e. olympic weightlifting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_weightlifting)






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        The question can not be honestly answered as it is stated remarkably imprecise ( in more than two instances ).



        Success in "sport" disciplines depend on sportive qualities that are distinct from each other ranging from fast strategic thinking (chess) over teamwork (i.e. climbing, ice-stick shooting, curling and alike team sports) to athletic capabilities.



        While many of these qualities are not tangled to sex, muscular strength, fast power and endurance performance are.

        There are physiological differences in muscular composition between males and females in homo sapiens that are rooted in sex driven hormonal differences that beside direct impact interact in various ways with growth and motoric ability. Some of these sex differences might be overcome by hormonal substitution combined with training at least in young fit individuals (this is because the bone composition / tendonous apparatus needs to adapt to muscular strength and the timeframe for bone composition change is early in lifespan).



        Therefore only in "sports" that depend foremost on power of the muscular skeletal system in a challenge of comparable conditioned man and women, the males are unlikely to be beaten even by exceptional strong females i.e. olympic weightlifting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_weightlifting)






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        The question can not be honestly answered as it is stated remarkably imprecise ( in more than two instances ).



        Success in "sport" disciplines depend on sportive qualities that are distinct from each other ranging from fast strategic thinking (chess) over teamwork (i.e. climbing, ice-stick shooting, curling and alike team sports) to athletic capabilities.



        While many of these qualities are not tangled to sex, muscular strength, fast power and endurance performance are.

        There are physiological differences in muscular composition between males and females in homo sapiens that are rooted in sex driven hormonal differences that beside direct impact interact in various ways with growth and motoric ability. Some of these sex differences might be overcome by hormonal substitution combined with training at least in young fit individuals (this is because the bone composition / tendonous apparatus needs to adapt to muscular strength and the timeframe for bone composition change is early in lifespan).



        Therefore only in "sports" that depend foremost on power of the muscular skeletal system in a challenge of comparable conditioned man and women, the males are unlikely to be beaten even by exceptional strong females i.e. olympic weightlifting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_weightlifting)







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