Why is Carlsen criticized for poor preparation at World Chess Championship 2018?











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As of 2018-11-24, 11 games have been drawn at the World Chess Championship (WCC) 2018. A lot of commentators (in particular Alexander Grischuk) have attacked Carlsen for poor preparation.



But ... 11 games have been drawn. It's not like Carlsen is losing. If it's true that he is not well-prepared, what does that say about Caruana's inability to take advantage of that and win? Should he not be criticized for not being able to win against a supposedly ill-prepared player?



In fact, if Carlsen can manage to win this WCC without preparing too much, that's a ... success, isn't it?










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    As of 2018-11-24, 11 games have been drawn at the World Chess Championship (WCC) 2018. A lot of commentators (in particular Alexander Grischuk) have attacked Carlsen for poor preparation.



    But ... 11 games have been drawn. It's not like Carlsen is losing. If it's true that he is not well-prepared, what does that say about Caruana's inability to take advantage of that and win? Should he not be criticized for not being able to win against a supposedly ill-prepared player?



    In fact, if Carlsen can manage to win this WCC without preparing too much, that's a ... success, isn't it?










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      As of 2018-11-24, 11 games have been drawn at the World Chess Championship (WCC) 2018. A lot of commentators (in particular Alexander Grischuk) have attacked Carlsen for poor preparation.



      But ... 11 games have been drawn. It's not like Carlsen is losing. If it's true that he is not well-prepared, what does that say about Caruana's inability to take advantage of that and win? Should he not be criticized for not being able to win against a supposedly ill-prepared player?



      In fact, if Carlsen can manage to win this WCC without preparing too much, that's a ... success, isn't it?










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      As of 2018-11-24, 11 games have been drawn at the World Chess Championship (WCC) 2018. A lot of commentators (in particular Alexander Grischuk) have attacked Carlsen for poor preparation.



      But ... 11 games have been drawn. It's not like Carlsen is losing. If it's true that he is not well-prepared, what does that say about Caruana's inability to take advantage of that and win? Should he not be criticized for not being able to win against a supposedly ill-prepared player?



      In fact, if Carlsen can manage to win this WCC without preparing too much, that's a ... success, isn't it?







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          Carlsen is being criticized for his preparation with white, particularly e4. He knows that Caruana is going to play the Petrof yet nevertheless Caruana equalizes effortlessly. Carlsen appears to have no new ideas in this opening. Since there is no more important competition he could be saving novelties for it tells us he has no novelties. No novelties = poor preparation. If he doesn't have an answer to this he shouldn't play 1. e4



          Note that we have seen novelties from Caruana, not necessarily good ones. As black in one game he played Rd8 in a Queen's Gambit looking to provoke the reply Nd2 from Carlsen. That looked like it would be a strong response from Carlsen but he chickened out and played a much more drawish move suggesting that he believed Caruana had some big improvement planned.






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          • Perhaps people expected a little more effort in trying to get an advantage from the opening when playing the White pieces from Carlsen. Just to mention one game, I found the Nd3 Petroff with the early exchange of Queens a bit disappointing... But the matches between Kasparov and Karpov, when every game with White was the opportunity to play the big novelties, are long gone. It think that the way top level chess is played currently is very different than 30 years or so ago.
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          • Novelties or not, Karpov and Kasparov still managed to draw 17 times in a row in 1984! A total of 40 draws out of 48 rounds.
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          Carlsen is criticized because he's in a defense position (he's defending his title, and doesn't need to win all games), and people want to see crazy games with new things, as simple as that.



          While I must admit that this kind of games are pretty boring, we cannot "hate" on him for having poor preparation. He's not there to entertain people.






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            Ultimately, he is there to entertain people. Professional sport exists only because people are entertained by it and are prepared to pay for that entertainment (and, in the context of chess, because sponsors are prepared to pay to have their name written beside that entertainment). Of course, in the short term, all professionals have little choice but to focus on "getting the job done." However, in the long term, if people don't find that job entertaining enough, it will cease to exist. (I'm not proposing that this is in any danger of happening soon.)
            – David Richerby
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          • @DavidRicherby - If Carlsen and Caruana are both there to entertain and winning is secondary, then the prize money should be split equally because it's not really about winning or losing. Since the prize money is not split evenly, winning does matter and Carlsen needs to do whatever he feels necessary to win, not entertain.
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            @RandyMinder You seem to have completely missed my point. "Doing whatever he feels necessary to win" is exactly the short-term focus on "getting the job done" that I mentioned. Question for you: what is the point of professional chess? Why are we prepared to pay people large sums of money to shuffle little pieces of wood around on a bigger piece of wood? I'm pretty sure it's not because we think they'll find a cure for cancer, for example.
            – David Richerby
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            From a marketing standpoint, then yes I agree on your point. But I'm sure players are not playing thinking about doing their best just to keep the sponsors happy. They are just playing to win and have fun
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            @PeterMortensen Yes, he can: if it goes to Armageddon and he gets Black.
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          The question is best answered by World Champions, and I don't think any of them said such a thing, but it may be the confluence of two factors.



          First, and obviously, it is much more important for Carlsen to avoid being on the receiving end of ultra-sharp preparation like http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1877986. If the price to pay is entering no sharp lines of his own, then he is more than willing to pay it, since he is probably the best at quiet, dull play, or at least he was!



          Second, commentators like Grischuk may not have realized how utra-dull chess can become with the current computers, even compared to the preparation Grischuk was doing 4-8 years ago. In the first game, Magnus was his scary self from Carlsen-Karjakin, with every move computer-approved and slowly shifting the balance in his favor. Even the Nd3 Petrov was an attempt to catch Fabi out, as it only draws if you know the method. Fabi thought for a few minutes probably just to mess with us or even play with his food, and played the equalizer ..Nc6. Fabi tried the Magnus recipe with b4 in the Rossolimo in game 5, and Magnus knew the equalizer.



          The guys are prepared! It's just that they are prepared to play as little chess as possible. Perhaps there will be more exciting prep in a longer match, but it is hard to undo the computer damage, unless you are prepared to prepare 10x harder than what was the norm 10 years ago.






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          • ("utra-dull""ultra-dull")
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          Carlsen is being criticized for his preparation with white, particularly e4. He knows that Caruana is going to play the Petrof yet nevertheless Caruana equalizes effortlessly. Carlsen appears to have no new ideas in this opening. Since there is no more important competition he could be saving novelties for it tells us he has no novelties. No novelties = poor preparation. If he doesn't have an answer to this he shouldn't play 1. e4



          Note that we have seen novelties from Caruana, not necessarily good ones. As black in one game he played Rd8 in a Queen's Gambit looking to provoke the reply Nd2 from Carlsen. That looked like it would be a strong response from Carlsen but he chickened out and played a much more drawish move suggesting that he believed Caruana had some big improvement planned.






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          • Perhaps people expected a little more effort in trying to get an advantage from the opening when playing the White pieces from Carlsen. Just to mention one game, I found the Nd3 Petroff with the early exchange of Queens a bit disappointing... But the matches between Kasparov and Karpov, when every game with White was the opportunity to play the big novelties, are long gone. It think that the way top level chess is played currently is very different than 30 years or so ago.
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          • Novelties or not, Karpov and Kasparov still managed to draw 17 times in a row in 1984! A total of 40 draws out of 48 rounds.
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          Carlsen is being criticized for his preparation with white, particularly e4. He knows that Caruana is going to play the Petrof yet nevertheless Caruana equalizes effortlessly. Carlsen appears to have no new ideas in this opening. Since there is no more important competition he could be saving novelties for it tells us he has no novelties. No novelties = poor preparation. If he doesn't have an answer to this he shouldn't play 1. e4



          Note that we have seen novelties from Caruana, not necessarily good ones. As black in one game he played Rd8 in a Queen's Gambit looking to provoke the reply Nd2 from Carlsen. That looked like it would be a strong response from Carlsen but he chickened out and played a much more drawish move suggesting that he believed Caruana had some big improvement planned.






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          • Perhaps people expected a little more effort in trying to get an advantage from the opening when playing the White pieces from Carlsen. Just to mention one game, I found the Nd3 Petroff with the early exchange of Queens a bit disappointing... But the matches between Kasparov and Karpov, when every game with White was the opportunity to play the big novelties, are long gone. It think that the way top level chess is played currently is very different than 30 years or so ago.
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          • Novelties or not, Karpov and Kasparov still managed to draw 17 times in a row in 1984! A total of 40 draws out of 48 rounds.
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          Carlsen is being criticized for his preparation with white, particularly e4. He knows that Caruana is going to play the Petrof yet nevertheless Caruana equalizes effortlessly. Carlsen appears to have no new ideas in this opening. Since there is no more important competition he could be saving novelties for it tells us he has no novelties. No novelties = poor preparation. If he doesn't have an answer to this he shouldn't play 1. e4



          Note that we have seen novelties from Caruana, not necessarily good ones. As black in one game he played Rd8 in a Queen's Gambit looking to provoke the reply Nd2 from Carlsen. That looked like it would be a strong response from Carlsen but he chickened out and played a much more drawish move suggesting that he believed Caruana had some big improvement planned.






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          Carlsen is being criticized for his preparation with white, particularly e4. He knows that Caruana is going to play the Petrof yet nevertheless Caruana equalizes effortlessly. Carlsen appears to have no new ideas in this opening. Since there is no more important competition he could be saving novelties for it tells us he has no novelties. No novelties = poor preparation. If he doesn't have an answer to this he shouldn't play 1. e4



          Note that we have seen novelties from Caruana, not necessarily good ones. As black in one game he played Rd8 in a Queen's Gambit looking to provoke the reply Nd2 from Carlsen. That looked like it would be a strong response from Carlsen but he chickened out and played a much more drawish move suggesting that he believed Caruana had some big improvement planned.







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          • Perhaps people expected a little more effort in trying to get an advantage from the opening when playing the White pieces from Carlsen. Just to mention one game, I found the Nd3 Petroff with the early exchange of Queens a bit disappointing... But the matches between Kasparov and Karpov, when every game with White was the opportunity to play the big novelties, are long gone. It think that the way top level chess is played currently is very different than 30 years or so ago.
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          • Novelties or not, Karpov and Kasparov still managed to draw 17 times in a row in 1984! A total of 40 draws out of 48 rounds.
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          • Perhaps people expected a little more effort in trying to get an advantage from the opening when playing the White pieces from Carlsen. Just to mention one game, I found the Nd3 Petroff with the early exchange of Queens a bit disappointing... But the matches between Kasparov and Karpov, when every game with White was the opportunity to play the big novelties, are long gone. It think that the way top level chess is played currently is very different than 30 years or so ago.
            – A. N. Other
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          • Novelties or not, Karpov and Kasparov still managed to draw 17 times in a row in 1984! A total of 40 draws out of 48 rounds.
            – itub
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          Perhaps people expected a little more effort in trying to get an advantage from the opening when playing the White pieces from Carlsen. Just to mention one game, I found the Nd3 Petroff with the early exchange of Queens a bit disappointing... But the matches between Kasparov and Karpov, when every game with White was the opportunity to play the big novelties, are long gone. It think that the way top level chess is played currently is very different than 30 years or so ago.
          – A. N. Other
          13 hours ago




          Perhaps people expected a little more effort in trying to get an advantage from the opening when playing the White pieces from Carlsen. Just to mention one game, I found the Nd3 Petroff with the early exchange of Queens a bit disappointing... But the matches between Kasparov and Karpov, when every game with White was the opportunity to play the big novelties, are long gone. It think that the way top level chess is played currently is very different than 30 years or so ago.
          – A. N. Other
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          Novelties or not, Karpov and Kasparov still managed to draw 17 times in a row in 1984! A total of 40 draws out of 48 rounds.
          – itub
          13 hours ago




          Novelties or not, Karpov and Kasparov still managed to draw 17 times in a row in 1984! A total of 40 draws out of 48 rounds.
          – itub
          13 hours ago










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          Carlsen is criticized because he's in a defense position (he's defending his title, and doesn't need to win all games), and people want to see crazy games with new things, as simple as that.



          While I must admit that this kind of games are pretty boring, we cannot "hate" on him for having poor preparation. He's not there to entertain people.






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            Ultimately, he is there to entertain people. Professional sport exists only because people are entertained by it and are prepared to pay for that entertainment (and, in the context of chess, because sponsors are prepared to pay to have their name written beside that entertainment). Of course, in the short term, all professionals have little choice but to focus on "getting the job done." However, in the long term, if people don't find that job entertaining enough, it will cease to exist. (I'm not proposing that this is in any danger of happening soon.)
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          • @DavidRicherby - If Carlsen and Caruana are both there to entertain and winning is secondary, then the prize money should be split equally because it's not really about winning or losing. Since the prize money is not split evenly, winning does matter and Carlsen needs to do whatever he feels necessary to win, not entertain.
            – Randy Minder
            14 hours ago






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            @RandyMinder You seem to have completely missed my point. "Doing whatever he feels necessary to win" is exactly the short-term focus on "getting the job done" that I mentioned. Question for you: what is the point of professional chess? Why are we prepared to pay people large sums of money to shuffle little pieces of wood around on a bigger piece of wood? I'm pretty sure it's not because we think they'll find a cure for cancer, for example.
            – David Richerby
            11 hours ago






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            From a marketing standpoint, then yes I agree on your point. But I'm sure players are not playing thinking about doing their best just to keep the sponsors happy. They are just playing to win and have fun
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            @PeterMortensen Yes, he can: if it goes to Armageddon and he gets Black.
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          Carlsen is criticized because he's in a defense position (he's defending his title, and doesn't need to win all games), and people want to see crazy games with new things, as simple as that.



          While I must admit that this kind of games are pretty boring, we cannot "hate" on him for having poor preparation. He's not there to entertain people.






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            Ultimately, he is there to entertain people. Professional sport exists only because people are entertained by it and are prepared to pay for that entertainment (and, in the context of chess, because sponsors are prepared to pay to have their name written beside that entertainment). Of course, in the short term, all professionals have little choice but to focus on "getting the job done." However, in the long term, if people don't find that job entertaining enough, it will cease to exist. (I'm not proposing that this is in any danger of happening soon.)
            – David Richerby
            15 hours ago










          • @DavidRicherby - If Carlsen and Caruana are both there to entertain and winning is secondary, then the prize money should be split equally because it's not really about winning or losing. Since the prize money is not split evenly, winning does matter and Carlsen needs to do whatever he feels necessary to win, not entertain.
            – Randy Minder
            14 hours ago






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            @RandyMinder You seem to have completely missed my point. "Doing whatever he feels necessary to win" is exactly the short-term focus on "getting the job done" that I mentioned. Question for you: what is the point of professional chess? Why are we prepared to pay people large sums of money to shuffle little pieces of wood around on a bigger piece of wood? I'm pretty sure it's not because we think they'll find a cure for cancer, for example.
            – David Richerby
            11 hours ago






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            From a marketing standpoint, then yes I agree on your point. But I'm sure players are not playing thinking about doing their best just to keep the sponsors happy. They are just playing to win and have fun
            – CSPP
            9 hours ago






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            @PeterMortensen Yes, he can: if it goes to Armageddon and he gets Black.
            – fkraiem
            4 hours ago















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          Carlsen is criticized because he's in a defense position (he's defending his title, and doesn't need to win all games), and people want to see crazy games with new things, as simple as that.



          While I must admit that this kind of games are pretty boring, we cannot "hate" on him for having poor preparation. He's not there to entertain people.






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          Carlsen is criticized because he's in a defense position (he's defending his title, and doesn't need to win all games), and people want to see crazy games with new things, as simple as that.



          While I must admit that this kind of games are pretty boring, we cannot "hate" on him for having poor preparation. He's not there to entertain people.







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            Ultimately, he is there to entertain people. Professional sport exists only because people are entertained by it and are prepared to pay for that entertainment (and, in the context of chess, because sponsors are prepared to pay to have their name written beside that entertainment). Of course, in the short term, all professionals have little choice but to focus on "getting the job done." However, in the long term, if people don't find that job entertaining enough, it will cease to exist. (I'm not proposing that this is in any danger of happening soon.)
            – David Richerby
            15 hours ago










          • @DavidRicherby - If Carlsen and Caruana are both there to entertain and winning is secondary, then the prize money should be split equally because it's not really about winning or losing. Since the prize money is not split evenly, winning does matter and Carlsen needs to do whatever he feels necessary to win, not entertain.
            – Randy Minder
            14 hours ago






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            @RandyMinder You seem to have completely missed my point. "Doing whatever he feels necessary to win" is exactly the short-term focus on "getting the job done" that I mentioned. Question for you: what is the point of professional chess? Why are we prepared to pay people large sums of money to shuffle little pieces of wood around on a bigger piece of wood? I'm pretty sure it's not because we think they'll find a cure for cancer, for example.
            – David Richerby
            11 hours ago






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            From a marketing standpoint, then yes I agree on your point. But I'm sure players are not playing thinking about doing their best just to keep the sponsors happy. They are just playing to win and have fun
            – CSPP
            9 hours ago






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            @PeterMortensen Yes, he can: if it goes to Armageddon and he gets Black.
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            4 hours ago
















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            Ultimately, he is there to entertain people. Professional sport exists only because people are entertained by it and are prepared to pay for that entertainment (and, in the context of chess, because sponsors are prepared to pay to have their name written beside that entertainment). Of course, in the short term, all professionals have little choice but to focus on "getting the job done." However, in the long term, if people don't find that job entertaining enough, it will cease to exist. (I'm not proposing that this is in any danger of happening soon.)
            – David Richerby
            15 hours ago










          • @DavidRicherby - If Carlsen and Caruana are both there to entertain and winning is secondary, then the prize money should be split equally because it's not really about winning or losing. Since the prize money is not split evenly, winning does matter and Carlsen needs to do whatever he feels necessary to win, not entertain.
            – Randy Minder
            14 hours ago






          • 3




            @RandyMinder You seem to have completely missed my point. "Doing whatever he feels necessary to win" is exactly the short-term focus on "getting the job done" that I mentioned. Question for you: what is the point of professional chess? Why are we prepared to pay people large sums of money to shuffle little pieces of wood around on a bigger piece of wood? I'm pretty sure it's not because we think they'll find a cure for cancer, for example.
            – David Richerby
            11 hours ago






          • 2




            From a marketing standpoint, then yes I agree on your point. But I'm sure players are not playing thinking about doing their best just to keep the sponsors happy. They are just playing to win and have fun
            – CSPP
            9 hours ago






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            @PeterMortensen Yes, he can: if it goes to Armageddon and he gets Black.
            – fkraiem
            4 hours ago










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          Ultimately, he is there to entertain people. Professional sport exists only because people are entertained by it and are prepared to pay for that entertainment (and, in the context of chess, because sponsors are prepared to pay to have their name written beside that entertainment). Of course, in the short term, all professionals have little choice but to focus on "getting the job done." However, in the long term, if people don't find that job entertaining enough, it will cease to exist. (I'm not proposing that this is in any danger of happening soon.)
          – David Richerby
          15 hours ago




          Ultimately, he is there to entertain people. Professional sport exists only because people are entertained by it and are prepared to pay for that entertainment (and, in the context of chess, because sponsors are prepared to pay to have their name written beside that entertainment). Of course, in the short term, all professionals have little choice but to focus on "getting the job done." However, in the long term, if people don't find that job entertaining enough, it will cease to exist. (I'm not proposing that this is in any danger of happening soon.)
          – David Richerby
          15 hours ago












          @DavidRicherby - If Carlsen and Caruana are both there to entertain and winning is secondary, then the prize money should be split equally because it's not really about winning or losing. Since the prize money is not split evenly, winning does matter and Carlsen needs to do whatever he feels necessary to win, not entertain.
          – Randy Minder
          14 hours ago




          @DavidRicherby - If Carlsen and Caruana are both there to entertain and winning is secondary, then the prize money should be split equally because it's not really about winning or losing. Since the prize money is not split evenly, winning does matter and Carlsen needs to do whatever he feels necessary to win, not entertain.
          – Randy Minder
          14 hours ago




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          @RandyMinder You seem to have completely missed my point. "Doing whatever he feels necessary to win" is exactly the short-term focus on "getting the job done" that I mentioned. Question for you: what is the point of professional chess? Why are we prepared to pay people large sums of money to shuffle little pieces of wood around on a bigger piece of wood? I'm pretty sure it's not because we think they'll find a cure for cancer, for example.
          – David Richerby
          11 hours ago




          @RandyMinder You seem to have completely missed my point. "Doing whatever he feels necessary to win" is exactly the short-term focus on "getting the job done" that I mentioned. Question for you: what is the point of professional chess? Why are we prepared to pay people large sums of money to shuffle little pieces of wood around on a bigger piece of wood? I'm pretty sure it's not because we think they'll find a cure for cancer, for example.
          – David Richerby
          11 hours ago




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          From a marketing standpoint, then yes I agree on your point. But I'm sure players are not playing thinking about doing their best just to keep the sponsors happy. They are just playing to win and have fun
          – CSPP
          9 hours ago




          From a marketing standpoint, then yes I agree on your point. But I'm sure players are not playing thinking about doing their best just to keep the sponsors happy. They are just playing to win and have fun
          – CSPP
          9 hours ago




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          @PeterMortensen Yes, he can: if it goes to Armageddon and he gets Black.
          – fkraiem
          4 hours ago






          @PeterMortensen Yes, he can: if it goes to Armageddon and he gets Black.
          – fkraiem
          4 hours ago












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          The question is best answered by World Champions, and I don't think any of them said such a thing, but it may be the confluence of two factors.



          First, and obviously, it is much more important for Carlsen to avoid being on the receiving end of ultra-sharp preparation like http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1877986. If the price to pay is entering no sharp lines of his own, then he is more than willing to pay it, since he is probably the best at quiet, dull play, or at least he was!



          Second, commentators like Grischuk may not have realized how utra-dull chess can become with the current computers, even compared to the preparation Grischuk was doing 4-8 years ago. In the first game, Magnus was his scary self from Carlsen-Karjakin, with every move computer-approved and slowly shifting the balance in his favor. Even the Nd3 Petrov was an attempt to catch Fabi out, as it only draws if you know the method. Fabi thought for a few minutes probably just to mess with us or even play with his food, and played the equalizer ..Nc6. Fabi tried the Magnus recipe with b4 in the Rossolimo in game 5, and Magnus knew the equalizer.



          The guys are prepared! It's just that they are prepared to play as little chess as possible. Perhaps there will be more exciting prep in a longer match, but it is hard to undo the computer damage, unless you are prepared to prepare 10x harder than what was the norm 10 years ago.






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          The question is best answered by World Champions, and I don't think any of them said such a thing, but it may be the confluence of two factors.



          First, and obviously, it is much more important for Carlsen to avoid being on the receiving end of ultra-sharp preparation like http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1877986. If the price to pay is entering no sharp lines of his own, then he is more than willing to pay it, since he is probably the best at quiet, dull play, or at least he was!



          Second, commentators like Grischuk may not have realized how utra-dull chess can become with the current computers, even compared to the preparation Grischuk was doing 4-8 years ago. In the first game, Magnus was his scary self from Carlsen-Karjakin, with every move computer-approved and slowly shifting the balance in his favor. Even the Nd3 Petrov was an attempt to catch Fabi out, as it only draws if you know the method. Fabi thought for a few minutes probably just to mess with us or even play with his food, and played the equalizer ..Nc6. Fabi tried the Magnus recipe with b4 in the Rossolimo in game 5, and Magnus knew the equalizer.



          The guys are prepared! It's just that they are prepared to play as little chess as possible. Perhaps there will be more exciting prep in a longer match, but it is hard to undo the computer damage, unless you are prepared to prepare 10x harder than what was the norm 10 years ago.






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          • ("utra-dull""ultra-dull")
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          up vote
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          The question is best answered by World Champions, and I don't think any of them said such a thing, but it may be the confluence of two factors.



          First, and obviously, it is much more important for Carlsen to avoid being on the receiving end of ultra-sharp preparation like http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1877986. If the price to pay is entering no sharp lines of his own, then he is more than willing to pay it, since he is probably the best at quiet, dull play, or at least he was!



          Second, commentators like Grischuk may not have realized how utra-dull chess can become with the current computers, even compared to the preparation Grischuk was doing 4-8 years ago. In the first game, Magnus was his scary self from Carlsen-Karjakin, with every move computer-approved and slowly shifting the balance in his favor. Even the Nd3 Petrov was an attempt to catch Fabi out, as it only draws if you know the method. Fabi thought for a few minutes probably just to mess with us or even play with his food, and played the equalizer ..Nc6. Fabi tried the Magnus recipe with b4 in the Rossolimo in game 5, and Magnus knew the equalizer.



          The guys are prepared! It's just that they are prepared to play as little chess as possible. Perhaps there will be more exciting prep in a longer match, but it is hard to undo the computer damage, unless you are prepared to prepare 10x harder than what was the norm 10 years ago.






          share|improve this answer














          The question is best answered by World Champions, and I don't think any of them said such a thing, but it may be the confluence of two factors.



          First, and obviously, it is much more important for Carlsen to avoid being on the receiving end of ultra-sharp preparation like http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1877986. If the price to pay is entering no sharp lines of his own, then he is more than willing to pay it, since he is probably the best at quiet, dull play, or at least he was!



          Second, commentators like Grischuk may not have realized how utra-dull chess can become with the current computers, even compared to the preparation Grischuk was doing 4-8 years ago. In the first game, Magnus was his scary self from Carlsen-Karjakin, with every move computer-approved and slowly shifting the balance in his favor. Even the Nd3 Petrov was an attempt to catch Fabi out, as it only draws if you know the method. Fabi thought for a few minutes probably just to mess with us or even play with his food, and played the equalizer ..Nc6. Fabi tried the Magnus recipe with b4 in the Rossolimo in game 5, and Magnus knew the equalizer.



          The guys are prepared! It's just that they are prepared to play as little chess as possible. Perhaps there will be more exciting prep in a longer match, but it is hard to undo the computer damage, unless you are prepared to prepare 10x harder than what was the norm 10 years ago.







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