Can I not side with my soon-to-be ex-collegues?
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My company, company A, is being sold.
It has been bought by a major player in the field, company B, and everybody was quite happy with it.
However, due to antitrust concerns, the European Commission requires some parts of A to be divided to a third party.
It turns out, this third party, company C, is a hedge fund.
My department is being split. Out of the twenty-ish people there, 3 (my colleague, me and our line manager) will go to B as planned. All the others will go to C.
My colleagues, overall, are not happy. They are putting together a protest email which will be sent to the top brass (which, by the way, will almost all go to B), complaining about the unfairness of the situation, and expect me to join the protest.
My dilemma is:
- While I believe the situation is unfortunate, on a very selfish level, it suits me well, therefore, I don't want to send that protest mail.
- All my colleagues, including the other two going to B will send the mail.
Finally the question:
How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
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My company, company A, is being sold.
It has been bought by a major player in the field, company B, and everybody was quite happy with it.
However, due to antitrust concerns, the European Commission requires some parts of A to be divided to a third party.
It turns out, this third party, company C, is a hedge fund.
My department is being split. Out of the twenty-ish people there, 3 (my colleague, me and our line manager) will go to B as planned. All the others will go to C.
My colleagues, overall, are not happy. They are putting together a protest email which will be sent to the top brass (which, by the way, will almost all go to B), complaining about the unfairness of the situation, and expect me to join the protest.
My dilemma is:
- While I believe the situation is unfortunate, on a very selfish level, it suits me well, therefore, I don't want to send that protest mail.
- All my colleagues, including the other two going to B will send the mail.
Finally the question:
How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
france acquisition
Who is choosing how the teams are split? Also, would your colleagues know if you don't send the mail?
– sf02
11 hours ago
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How would they know that you did NOT send it?
– Sandra K
11 hours ago
1
What outcome are your colleagues hoping to achieve? And is that realistic? If they're looking for an explanation of who's going where it might be worth going along with it, but complaining that it's "unfair" is unlikely to achieve anything useful - particularly as there seems to be a legal reason why the department is being split - which would be a good reason for anyone not to sign.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
11 hours ago
1
Our current management suggests an organisation, but the European Commission has final say. As for the mail, we are supposed to CC our union representative (one of our colleagues, going to C), officially so that he does not miss an answer (needless to say, it also adds a lot of peer pressure)
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
Are you afraid of repercussions? If the company decides to fire people for sending the letter, both your colleague and line manager would be fired and you'd be the only person moving from your department? Have you talked with the other two people about this?
– Arthur Dent
6 hours ago
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My company, company A, is being sold.
It has been bought by a major player in the field, company B, and everybody was quite happy with it.
However, due to antitrust concerns, the European Commission requires some parts of A to be divided to a third party.
It turns out, this third party, company C, is a hedge fund.
My department is being split. Out of the twenty-ish people there, 3 (my colleague, me and our line manager) will go to B as planned. All the others will go to C.
My colleagues, overall, are not happy. They are putting together a protest email which will be sent to the top brass (which, by the way, will almost all go to B), complaining about the unfairness of the situation, and expect me to join the protest.
My dilemma is:
- While I believe the situation is unfortunate, on a very selfish level, it suits me well, therefore, I don't want to send that protest mail.
- All my colleagues, including the other two going to B will send the mail.
Finally the question:
How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
france acquisition
My company, company A, is being sold.
It has been bought by a major player in the field, company B, and everybody was quite happy with it.
However, due to antitrust concerns, the European Commission requires some parts of A to be divided to a third party.
It turns out, this third party, company C, is a hedge fund.
My department is being split. Out of the twenty-ish people there, 3 (my colleague, me and our line manager) will go to B as planned. All the others will go to C.
My colleagues, overall, are not happy. They are putting together a protest email which will be sent to the top brass (which, by the way, will almost all go to B), complaining about the unfairness of the situation, and expect me to join the protest.
My dilemma is:
- While I believe the situation is unfortunate, on a very selfish level, it suits me well, therefore, I don't want to send that protest mail.
- All my colleagues, including the other two going to B will send the mail.
Finally the question:
How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
france acquisition
france acquisition
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Who is choosing how the teams are split? Also, would your colleagues know if you don't send the mail?
– sf02
11 hours ago
1
How would they know that you did NOT send it?
– Sandra K
11 hours ago
1
What outcome are your colleagues hoping to achieve? And is that realistic? If they're looking for an explanation of who's going where it might be worth going along with it, but complaining that it's "unfair" is unlikely to achieve anything useful - particularly as there seems to be a legal reason why the department is being split - which would be a good reason for anyone not to sign.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
11 hours ago
1
Our current management suggests an organisation, but the European Commission has final say. As for the mail, we are supposed to CC our union representative (one of our colleagues, going to C), officially so that he does not miss an answer (needless to say, it also adds a lot of peer pressure)
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
Are you afraid of repercussions? If the company decides to fire people for sending the letter, both your colleague and line manager would be fired and you'd be the only person moving from your department? Have you talked with the other two people about this?
– Arthur Dent
6 hours ago
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Who is choosing how the teams are split? Also, would your colleagues know if you don't send the mail?
– sf02
11 hours ago
1
How would they know that you did NOT send it?
– Sandra K
11 hours ago
1
What outcome are your colleagues hoping to achieve? And is that realistic? If they're looking for an explanation of who's going where it might be worth going along with it, but complaining that it's "unfair" is unlikely to achieve anything useful - particularly as there seems to be a legal reason why the department is being split - which would be a good reason for anyone not to sign.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
11 hours ago
1
Our current management suggests an organisation, but the European Commission has final say. As for the mail, we are supposed to CC our union representative (one of our colleagues, going to C), officially so that he does not miss an answer (needless to say, it also adds a lot of peer pressure)
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
Are you afraid of repercussions? If the company decides to fire people for sending the letter, both your colleague and line manager would be fired and you'd be the only person moving from your department? Have you talked with the other two people about this?
– Arthur Dent
6 hours ago
Who is choosing how the teams are split? Also, would your colleagues know if you don't send the mail?
– sf02
11 hours ago
Who is choosing how the teams are split? Also, would your colleagues know if you don't send the mail?
– sf02
11 hours ago
1
1
How would they know that you did NOT send it?
– Sandra K
11 hours ago
How would they know that you did NOT send it?
– Sandra K
11 hours ago
1
1
What outcome are your colleagues hoping to achieve? And is that realistic? If they're looking for an explanation of who's going where it might be worth going along with it, but complaining that it's "unfair" is unlikely to achieve anything useful - particularly as there seems to be a legal reason why the department is being split - which would be a good reason for anyone not to sign.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
11 hours ago
What outcome are your colleagues hoping to achieve? And is that realistic? If they're looking for an explanation of who's going where it might be worth going along with it, but complaining that it's "unfair" is unlikely to achieve anything useful - particularly as there seems to be a legal reason why the department is being split - which would be a good reason for anyone not to sign.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
11 hours ago
1
1
Our current management suggests an organisation, but the European Commission has final say. As for the mail, we are supposed to CC our union representative (one of our colleagues, going to C), officially so that he does not miss an answer (needless to say, it also adds a lot of peer pressure)
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
Our current management suggests an organisation, but the European Commission has final say. As for the mail, we are supposed to CC our union representative (one of our colleagues, going to C), officially so that he does not miss an answer (needless to say, it also adds a lot of peer pressure)
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
Are you afraid of repercussions? If the company decides to fire people for sending the letter, both your colleague and line manager would be fired and you'd be the only person moving from your department? Have you talked with the other two people about this?
– Arthur Dent
6 hours ago
Are you afraid of repercussions? If the company decides to fire people for sending the letter, both your colleague and line manager would be fired and you'd be the only person moving from your department? Have you talked with the other two people about this?
– Arthur Dent
6 hours ago
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Just tell them you don't want to burn bridges before you even get there.
I can't tell you how your co-workers will react, but I feel that this response is reasonable.
Tell them you don't want to compromise your standing with the new company in the event they take offense to this type of email and that you would rather keep your head down. If you must, tell them you fully support them in their endeavor, but you will not be partaking.
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My addition to other answers is an alternative delivery.
I'd be totally straight with them and say something along the lines of I'm not interested in wasting time and making waves on a protest that will not change anything.
This is in my own best interests and potentially theirs as well if they get over their pique and think about what they're doing before they potentially get themselves some negative attention from higher up.
I wouldn't try and talk them out of it, just indicate I'm not getting involved.
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Yup, better to be direct with them than potentially get caught in a lie.
– sf02
7 hours ago
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"on a protest that will not change anything" +1 for that part. If it is an European Commission regulation, they have about 0 chance of success, company will fear sanctions more than few unhappy employees, no way around that. If they are reasonable, they will accept that OP is not going to fight a battle already lost.
– Mołot
4 hours ago
@Mołot: Ugh. The employees actually have some power here. The threat of a blanket strike of all employees going to C is rather powerful.
– Joshua
23 mins ago
@Joshua sure is they'd love it, most important part of restructuring is getting rid of dead weight and employees with issues. Worst part of buying out a smaller company is dealing with contracted employees, so great if they give a reason to make an example or get rid of them.
– Kilisi
17 mins ago
@Kilisi: If they're all in on it, than C cannot survive and that's the piece being bought by the hedge fund.
– Joshua
16 mins ago
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Just do nothing.
You're not required to send the letter, and you shouldn't be forced to send a letter you don't want to - be it a protest letter, or any other kind.
Neither are you required to express that you're not going to do this.
So just don't do or say anything, and let it go. If anyone notices and ask, you can be sincere and tell them why you're not doing it, or you could just evade the question with some excuse. Once again, they shouldn't force you to explain why you don't want to be involved in this situation.
I agree with you that it's a selfish attitude to take, so I don't think that stating out loud that you're being selfish is the best way to keep a good relationship with your peers for the next month - it will probably burn some bridges whenever they find out. So just ignore the situation, fly low, and hope no one notices.
If they (try to) force you to send the letter, you can state that as an issue that prevents you from being involved - you don't want to be forced into empathizing with your colleagues. It may be an excuse, or it may be true - but I wouldn't care about coming up with false excuses to people who's forcing me to do something I don't want, even if it's a good thing to do.
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How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
Just tell them that you don't think it will do any good.
Point out that the deck on this one is already stacked
the exec's are already going where they want to go.There are causes which are worth dying for, but
this is more of a live to fight another day situation.
Hopefully this helps in France, (which you've tagged) I've never been/worked there.
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All my colleagues, including the other two going to B will send the mail.
Are each of the colleagues sending it from their own email accounts? Or will it be a joint letter signed by each person?
How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
Could you just pretend you sent the email? How do you know for certain the 2 colleagues coming with you aren't doing the same?
The plan is for everyone to send the same mail, from their own addresses, at the same time, cc'ing our union representative.
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
Could you just pretend to send it even then? Say I did, over and over. Then if they ask if you sent it, say you did and you cc'd your union representatives. Hopefully it'll keep you afloat for the month before the switch. Don't say anything unless they ask but try to keep a low profile.
– Dan
9 hours ago
Cultural difference spotted :) Here in France, the union rep is an elected amongst the employees. He is one of my colleagues.
– Jean-Pierre
9 hours ago
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@Dan I would think lying to his current colleagues isn't the best approach.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
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@Dan to each their own I guess, I would rather be honest and just tell them I don't want to send it.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
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up vote
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Just tell them you don't want to burn bridges before you even get there.
I can't tell you how your co-workers will react, but I feel that this response is reasonable.
Tell them you don't want to compromise your standing with the new company in the event they take offense to this type of email and that you would rather keep your head down. If you must, tell them you fully support them in their endeavor, but you will not be partaking.
add a comment |
up vote
21
down vote
Just tell them you don't want to burn bridges before you even get there.
I can't tell you how your co-workers will react, but I feel that this response is reasonable.
Tell them you don't want to compromise your standing with the new company in the event they take offense to this type of email and that you would rather keep your head down. If you must, tell them you fully support them in their endeavor, but you will not be partaking.
add a comment |
up vote
21
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up vote
21
down vote
Just tell them you don't want to burn bridges before you even get there.
I can't tell you how your co-workers will react, but I feel that this response is reasonable.
Tell them you don't want to compromise your standing with the new company in the event they take offense to this type of email and that you would rather keep your head down. If you must, tell them you fully support them in their endeavor, but you will not be partaking.
Just tell them you don't want to burn bridges before you even get there.
I can't tell you how your co-workers will react, but I feel that this response is reasonable.
Tell them you don't want to compromise your standing with the new company in the event they take offense to this type of email and that you would rather keep your head down. If you must, tell them you fully support them in their endeavor, but you will not be partaking.
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My addition to other answers is an alternative delivery.
I'd be totally straight with them and say something along the lines of I'm not interested in wasting time and making waves on a protest that will not change anything.
This is in my own best interests and potentially theirs as well if they get over their pique and think about what they're doing before they potentially get themselves some negative attention from higher up.
I wouldn't try and talk them out of it, just indicate I'm not getting involved.
2
Yup, better to be direct with them than potentially get caught in a lie.
– sf02
7 hours ago
3
"on a protest that will not change anything" +1 for that part. If it is an European Commission regulation, they have about 0 chance of success, company will fear sanctions more than few unhappy employees, no way around that. If they are reasonable, they will accept that OP is not going to fight a battle already lost.
– Mołot
4 hours ago
@Mołot: Ugh. The employees actually have some power here. The threat of a blanket strike of all employees going to C is rather powerful.
– Joshua
23 mins ago
@Joshua sure is they'd love it, most important part of restructuring is getting rid of dead weight and employees with issues. Worst part of buying out a smaller company is dealing with contracted employees, so great if they give a reason to make an example or get rid of them.
– Kilisi
17 mins ago
@Kilisi: If they're all in on it, than C cannot survive and that's the piece being bought by the hedge fund.
– Joshua
16 mins ago
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show 3 more comments
up vote
3
down vote
My addition to other answers is an alternative delivery.
I'd be totally straight with them and say something along the lines of I'm not interested in wasting time and making waves on a protest that will not change anything.
This is in my own best interests and potentially theirs as well if they get over their pique and think about what they're doing before they potentially get themselves some negative attention from higher up.
I wouldn't try and talk them out of it, just indicate I'm not getting involved.
2
Yup, better to be direct with them than potentially get caught in a lie.
– sf02
7 hours ago
3
"on a protest that will not change anything" +1 for that part. If it is an European Commission regulation, they have about 0 chance of success, company will fear sanctions more than few unhappy employees, no way around that. If they are reasonable, they will accept that OP is not going to fight a battle already lost.
– Mołot
4 hours ago
@Mołot: Ugh. The employees actually have some power here. The threat of a blanket strike of all employees going to C is rather powerful.
– Joshua
23 mins ago
@Joshua sure is they'd love it, most important part of restructuring is getting rid of dead weight and employees with issues. Worst part of buying out a smaller company is dealing with contracted employees, so great if they give a reason to make an example or get rid of them.
– Kilisi
17 mins ago
@Kilisi: If they're all in on it, than C cannot survive and that's the piece being bought by the hedge fund.
– Joshua
16 mins ago
|
show 3 more comments
up vote
3
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up vote
3
down vote
My addition to other answers is an alternative delivery.
I'd be totally straight with them and say something along the lines of I'm not interested in wasting time and making waves on a protest that will not change anything.
This is in my own best interests and potentially theirs as well if they get over their pique and think about what they're doing before they potentially get themselves some negative attention from higher up.
I wouldn't try and talk them out of it, just indicate I'm not getting involved.
My addition to other answers is an alternative delivery.
I'd be totally straight with them and say something along the lines of I'm not interested in wasting time and making waves on a protest that will not change anything.
This is in my own best interests and potentially theirs as well if they get over their pique and think about what they're doing before they potentially get themselves some negative attention from higher up.
I wouldn't try and talk them out of it, just indicate I'm not getting involved.
answered 7 hours ago
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Yup, better to be direct with them than potentially get caught in a lie.
– sf02
7 hours ago
3
"on a protest that will not change anything" +1 for that part. If it is an European Commission regulation, they have about 0 chance of success, company will fear sanctions more than few unhappy employees, no way around that. If they are reasonable, they will accept that OP is not going to fight a battle already lost.
– Mołot
4 hours ago
@Mołot: Ugh. The employees actually have some power here. The threat of a blanket strike of all employees going to C is rather powerful.
– Joshua
23 mins ago
@Joshua sure is they'd love it, most important part of restructuring is getting rid of dead weight and employees with issues. Worst part of buying out a smaller company is dealing with contracted employees, so great if they give a reason to make an example or get rid of them.
– Kilisi
17 mins ago
@Kilisi: If they're all in on it, than C cannot survive and that's the piece being bought by the hedge fund.
– Joshua
16 mins ago
|
show 3 more comments
2
Yup, better to be direct with them than potentially get caught in a lie.
– sf02
7 hours ago
3
"on a protest that will not change anything" +1 for that part. If it is an European Commission regulation, they have about 0 chance of success, company will fear sanctions more than few unhappy employees, no way around that. If they are reasonable, they will accept that OP is not going to fight a battle already lost.
– Mołot
4 hours ago
@Mołot: Ugh. The employees actually have some power here. The threat of a blanket strike of all employees going to C is rather powerful.
– Joshua
23 mins ago
@Joshua sure is they'd love it, most important part of restructuring is getting rid of dead weight and employees with issues. Worst part of buying out a smaller company is dealing with contracted employees, so great if they give a reason to make an example or get rid of them.
– Kilisi
17 mins ago
@Kilisi: If they're all in on it, than C cannot survive and that's the piece being bought by the hedge fund.
– Joshua
16 mins ago
2
2
Yup, better to be direct with them than potentially get caught in a lie.
– sf02
7 hours ago
Yup, better to be direct with them than potentially get caught in a lie.
– sf02
7 hours ago
3
3
"on a protest that will not change anything" +1 for that part. If it is an European Commission regulation, they have about 0 chance of success, company will fear sanctions more than few unhappy employees, no way around that. If they are reasonable, they will accept that OP is not going to fight a battle already lost.
– Mołot
4 hours ago
"on a protest that will not change anything" +1 for that part. If it is an European Commission regulation, they have about 0 chance of success, company will fear sanctions more than few unhappy employees, no way around that. If they are reasonable, they will accept that OP is not going to fight a battle already lost.
– Mołot
4 hours ago
@Mołot: Ugh. The employees actually have some power here. The threat of a blanket strike of all employees going to C is rather powerful.
– Joshua
23 mins ago
@Mołot: Ugh. The employees actually have some power here. The threat of a blanket strike of all employees going to C is rather powerful.
– Joshua
23 mins ago
@Joshua sure is they'd love it, most important part of restructuring is getting rid of dead weight and employees with issues. Worst part of buying out a smaller company is dealing with contracted employees, so great if they give a reason to make an example or get rid of them.
– Kilisi
17 mins ago
@Joshua sure is they'd love it, most important part of restructuring is getting rid of dead weight and employees with issues. Worst part of buying out a smaller company is dealing with contracted employees, so great if they give a reason to make an example or get rid of them.
– Kilisi
17 mins ago
@Kilisi: If they're all in on it, than C cannot survive and that's the piece being bought by the hedge fund.
– Joshua
16 mins ago
@Kilisi: If they're all in on it, than C cannot survive and that's the piece being bought by the hedge fund.
– Joshua
16 mins ago
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Just do nothing.
You're not required to send the letter, and you shouldn't be forced to send a letter you don't want to - be it a protest letter, or any other kind.
Neither are you required to express that you're not going to do this.
So just don't do or say anything, and let it go. If anyone notices and ask, you can be sincere and tell them why you're not doing it, or you could just evade the question with some excuse. Once again, they shouldn't force you to explain why you don't want to be involved in this situation.
I agree with you that it's a selfish attitude to take, so I don't think that stating out loud that you're being selfish is the best way to keep a good relationship with your peers for the next month - it will probably burn some bridges whenever they find out. So just ignore the situation, fly low, and hope no one notices.
If they (try to) force you to send the letter, you can state that as an issue that prevents you from being involved - you don't want to be forced into empathizing with your colleagues. It may be an excuse, or it may be true - but I wouldn't care about coming up with false excuses to people who's forcing me to do something I don't want, even if it's a good thing to do.
add a comment |
up vote
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Just do nothing.
You're not required to send the letter, and you shouldn't be forced to send a letter you don't want to - be it a protest letter, or any other kind.
Neither are you required to express that you're not going to do this.
So just don't do or say anything, and let it go. If anyone notices and ask, you can be sincere and tell them why you're not doing it, or you could just evade the question with some excuse. Once again, they shouldn't force you to explain why you don't want to be involved in this situation.
I agree with you that it's a selfish attitude to take, so I don't think that stating out loud that you're being selfish is the best way to keep a good relationship with your peers for the next month - it will probably burn some bridges whenever they find out. So just ignore the situation, fly low, and hope no one notices.
If they (try to) force you to send the letter, you can state that as an issue that prevents you from being involved - you don't want to be forced into empathizing with your colleagues. It may be an excuse, or it may be true - but I wouldn't care about coming up with false excuses to people who's forcing me to do something I don't want, even if it's a good thing to do.
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
Just do nothing.
You're not required to send the letter, and you shouldn't be forced to send a letter you don't want to - be it a protest letter, or any other kind.
Neither are you required to express that you're not going to do this.
So just don't do or say anything, and let it go. If anyone notices and ask, you can be sincere and tell them why you're not doing it, or you could just evade the question with some excuse. Once again, they shouldn't force you to explain why you don't want to be involved in this situation.
I agree with you that it's a selfish attitude to take, so I don't think that stating out loud that you're being selfish is the best way to keep a good relationship with your peers for the next month - it will probably burn some bridges whenever they find out. So just ignore the situation, fly low, and hope no one notices.
If they (try to) force you to send the letter, you can state that as an issue that prevents you from being involved - you don't want to be forced into empathizing with your colleagues. It may be an excuse, or it may be true - but I wouldn't care about coming up with false excuses to people who's forcing me to do something I don't want, even if it's a good thing to do.
Just do nothing.
You're not required to send the letter, and you shouldn't be forced to send a letter you don't want to - be it a protest letter, or any other kind.
Neither are you required to express that you're not going to do this.
So just don't do or say anything, and let it go. If anyone notices and ask, you can be sincere and tell them why you're not doing it, or you could just evade the question with some excuse. Once again, they shouldn't force you to explain why you don't want to be involved in this situation.
I agree with you that it's a selfish attitude to take, so I don't think that stating out loud that you're being selfish is the best way to keep a good relationship with your peers for the next month - it will probably burn some bridges whenever they find out. So just ignore the situation, fly low, and hope no one notices.
If they (try to) force you to send the letter, you can state that as an issue that prevents you from being involved - you don't want to be forced into empathizing with your colleagues. It may be an excuse, or it may be true - but I wouldn't care about coming up with false excuses to people who's forcing me to do something I don't want, even if it's a good thing to do.
answered 6 hours ago
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How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
Just tell them that you don't think it will do any good.
Point out that the deck on this one is already stacked
the exec's are already going where they want to go.There are causes which are worth dying for, but
this is more of a live to fight another day situation.
Hopefully this helps in France, (which you've tagged) I've never been/worked there.
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How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
Just tell them that you don't think it will do any good.
Point out that the deck on this one is already stacked
the exec's are already going where they want to go.There are causes which are worth dying for, but
this is more of a live to fight another day situation.
Hopefully this helps in France, (which you've tagged) I've never been/worked there.
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How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
Just tell them that you don't think it will do any good.
Point out that the deck on this one is already stacked
the exec's are already going where they want to go.There are causes which are worth dying for, but
this is more of a live to fight another day situation.
Hopefully this helps in France, (which you've tagged) I've never been/worked there.
How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
Just tell them that you don't think it will do any good.
Point out that the deck on this one is already stacked
the exec's are already going where they want to go.There are causes which are worth dying for, but
this is more of a live to fight another day situation.
Hopefully this helps in France, (which you've tagged) I've never been/worked there.
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All my colleagues, including the other two going to B will send the mail.
Are each of the colleagues sending it from their own email accounts? Or will it be a joint letter signed by each person?
How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
Could you just pretend you sent the email? How do you know for certain the 2 colleagues coming with you aren't doing the same?
The plan is for everyone to send the same mail, from their own addresses, at the same time, cc'ing our union representative.
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
Could you just pretend to send it even then? Say I did, over and over. Then if they ask if you sent it, say you did and you cc'd your union representatives. Hopefully it'll keep you afloat for the month before the switch. Don't say anything unless they ask but try to keep a low profile.
– Dan
9 hours ago
Cultural difference spotted :) Here in France, the union rep is an elected amongst the employees. He is one of my colleagues.
– Jean-Pierre
9 hours ago
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@Dan I would think lying to his current colleagues isn't the best approach.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
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@Dan to each their own I guess, I would rather be honest and just tell them I don't want to send it.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
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All my colleagues, including the other two going to B will send the mail.
Are each of the colleagues sending it from their own email accounts? Or will it be a joint letter signed by each person?
How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
Could you just pretend you sent the email? How do you know for certain the 2 colleagues coming with you aren't doing the same?
The plan is for everyone to send the same mail, from their own addresses, at the same time, cc'ing our union representative.
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
Could you just pretend to send it even then? Say I did, over and over. Then if they ask if you sent it, say you did and you cc'd your union representatives. Hopefully it'll keep you afloat for the month before the switch. Don't say anything unless they ask but try to keep a low profile.
– Dan
9 hours ago
Cultural difference spotted :) Here in France, the union rep is an elected amongst the employees. He is one of my colleagues.
– Jean-Pierre
9 hours ago
2
@Dan I would think lying to his current colleagues isn't the best approach.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
1
@Dan to each their own I guess, I would rather be honest and just tell them I don't want to send it.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
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up vote
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up vote
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All my colleagues, including the other two going to B will send the mail.
Are each of the colleagues sending it from their own email accounts? Or will it be a joint letter signed by each person?
How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
Could you just pretend you sent the email? How do you know for certain the 2 colleagues coming with you aren't doing the same?
All my colleagues, including the other two going to B will send the mail.
Are each of the colleagues sending it from their own email accounts? Or will it be a joint letter signed by each person?
How can I not send the mail, and yet keep working in harmony during the acquisition process which could take month?
Could you just pretend you sent the email? How do you know for certain the 2 colleagues coming with you aren't doing the same?
answered 10 hours ago
Dan
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The plan is for everyone to send the same mail, from their own addresses, at the same time, cc'ing our union representative.
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
Could you just pretend to send it even then? Say I did, over and over. Then if they ask if you sent it, say you did and you cc'd your union representatives. Hopefully it'll keep you afloat for the month before the switch. Don't say anything unless they ask but try to keep a low profile.
– Dan
9 hours ago
Cultural difference spotted :) Here in France, the union rep is an elected amongst the employees. He is one of my colleagues.
– Jean-Pierre
9 hours ago
2
@Dan I would think lying to his current colleagues isn't the best approach.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
1
@Dan to each their own I guess, I would rather be honest and just tell them I don't want to send it.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
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The plan is for everyone to send the same mail, from their own addresses, at the same time, cc'ing our union representative.
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
Could you just pretend to send it even then? Say I did, over and over. Then if they ask if you sent it, say you did and you cc'd your union representatives. Hopefully it'll keep you afloat for the month before the switch. Don't say anything unless they ask but try to keep a low profile.
– Dan
9 hours ago
Cultural difference spotted :) Here in France, the union rep is an elected amongst the employees. He is one of my colleagues.
– Jean-Pierre
9 hours ago
2
@Dan I would think lying to his current colleagues isn't the best approach.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
1
@Dan to each their own I guess, I would rather be honest and just tell them I don't want to send it.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
The plan is for everyone to send the same mail, from their own addresses, at the same time, cc'ing our union representative.
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
The plan is for everyone to send the same mail, from their own addresses, at the same time, cc'ing our union representative.
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
Could you just pretend to send it even then? Say I did, over and over. Then if they ask if you sent it, say you did and you cc'd your union representatives. Hopefully it'll keep you afloat for the month before the switch. Don't say anything unless they ask but try to keep a low profile.
– Dan
9 hours ago
Could you just pretend to send it even then? Say I did, over and over. Then if they ask if you sent it, say you did and you cc'd your union representatives. Hopefully it'll keep you afloat for the month before the switch. Don't say anything unless they ask but try to keep a low profile.
– Dan
9 hours ago
Cultural difference spotted :) Here in France, the union rep is an elected amongst the employees. He is one of my colleagues.
– Jean-Pierre
9 hours ago
Cultural difference spotted :) Here in France, the union rep is an elected amongst the employees. He is one of my colleagues.
– Jean-Pierre
9 hours ago
2
2
@Dan I would think lying to his current colleagues isn't the best approach.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
@Dan I would think lying to his current colleagues isn't the best approach.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
1
1
@Dan to each their own I guess, I would rather be honest and just tell them I don't want to send it.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
@Dan to each their own I guess, I would rather be honest and just tell them I don't want to send it.
– SaggingRufus
8 hours ago
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Who is choosing how the teams are split? Also, would your colleagues know if you don't send the mail?
– sf02
11 hours ago
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How would they know that you did NOT send it?
– Sandra K
11 hours ago
1
What outcome are your colleagues hoping to achieve? And is that realistic? If they're looking for an explanation of who's going where it might be worth going along with it, but complaining that it's "unfair" is unlikely to achieve anything useful - particularly as there seems to be a legal reason why the department is being split - which would be a good reason for anyone not to sign.
– ItWasLikeThatWhenIGotHere
11 hours ago
1
Our current management suggests an organisation, but the European Commission has final say. As for the mail, we are supposed to CC our union representative (one of our colleagues, going to C), officially so that he does not miss an answer (needless to say, it also adds a lot of peer pressure)
– Jean-Pierre
10 hours ago
Are you afraid of repercussions? If the company decides to fire people for sending the letter, both your colleague and line manager would be fired and you'd be the only person moving from your department? Have you talked with the other two people about this?
– Arthur Dent
6 hours ago