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I have been 'hired" by Nissan Motor as a key account specialist.



My first assignment is to cash two checks that I have received, which were written by a customer, who has already received the engines. The two checks total $2500. I am to cash the checks, get the money, take out my bonus and any other related expenses and deposit into a Bitcoin ATM. Then make copy of receipt and electronically send to my "manager".



I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, they said they will not get involved, that this is between my and my employer. Advise?










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I have been 'hired" by Nissan Motor as a key account specialist.



My first assignment is to cash two checks that I have received, which were written by a customer, who has already received the engines. The two checks total $2500. I am to cash the checks, get the money, take out my bonus and any other related expenses and deposit into a Bitcoin ATM. Then make copy of receipt and electronically send to my "manager".



I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, they said they will not get involved, that this is between my and my employer. Advise?










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  • Possible duplicate of Scam or Real: A woman from Facebook apparently needs my bank account to send money

    – JMac
    10 hours ago






  • 30





    Yes that's a fraud. Go to the police. The checks are fake.

    – Ben Voigt
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    Possible duplicate of Is this a cashier check scam?

    – Pete B.
    10 hours ago






  • 2





    How exactly did you get hired for this? Were you contacted out of the blue, or did you find a job ad that you applied to?

    – Tas
    5 hours ago











  • Curious though, if you do cash the cheque, (obviously don't send the bitcoin!) how long does it stay in your account for before the bank realises it's a fake and take it back out?

    – colmde
    2 hours ago














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I have been 'hired" by Nissan Motor as a key account specialist.



My first assignment is to cash two checks that I have received, which were written by a customer, who has already received the engines. The two checks total $2500. I am to cash the checks, get the money, take out my bonus and any other related expenses and deposit into a Bitcoin ATM. Then make copy of receipt and electronically send to my "manager".



I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, they said they will not get involved, that this is between my and my employer. Advise?










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I have been 'hired" by Nissan Motor as a key account specialist.



My first assignment is to cash two checks that I have received, which were written by a customer, who has already received the engines. The two checks total $2500. I am to cash the checks, get the money, take out my bonus and any other related expenses and deposit into a Bitcoin ATM. Then make copy of receipt and electronically send to my "manager".



I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, they said they will not get involved, that this is between my and my employer. Advise?







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  • Possible duplicate of Scam or Real: A woman from Facebook apparently needs my bank account to send money

    – JMac
    10 hours ago






  • 30





    Yes that's a fraud. Go to the police. The checks are fake.

    – Ben Voigt
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    Possible duplicate of Is this a cashier check scam?

    – Pete B.
    10 hours ago






  • 2





    How exactly did you get hired for this? Were you contacted out of the blue, or did you find a job ad that you applied to?

    – Tas
    5 hours ago











  • Curious though, if you do cash the cheque, (obviously don't send the bitcoin!) how long does it stay in your account for before the bank realises it's a fake and take it back out?

    – colmde
    2 hours ago



















  • Possible duplicate of Scam or Real: A woman from Facebook apparently needs my bank account to send money

    – JMac
    10 hours ago






  • 30





    Yes that's a fraud. Go to the police. The checks are fake.

    – Ben Voigt
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    Possible duplicate of Is this a cashier check scam?

    – Pete B.
    10 hours ago






  • 2





    How exactly did you get hired for this? Were you contacted out of the blue, or did you find a job ad that you applied to?

    – Tas
    5 hours ago











  • Curious though, if you do cash the cheque, (obviously don't send the bitcoin!) how long does it stay in your account for before the bank realises it's a fake and take it back out?

    – colmde
    2 hours ago

















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– JMac
10 hours ago





Possible duplicate of Scam or Real: A woman from Facebook apparently needs my bank account to send money

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Yes that's a fraud. Go to the police. The checks are fake.

– Ben Voigt
10 hours ago




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– Pete B.
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– Pete B.
10 hours ago




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How exactly did you get hired for this? Were you contacted out of the blue, or did you find a job ad that you applied to?

– Tas
5 hours ago





How exactly did you get hired for this? Were you contacted out of the blue, or did you find a job ad that you applied to?

– Tas
5 hours ago













Curious though, if you do cash the cheque, (obviously don't send the bitcoin!) how long does it stay in your account for before the bank realises it's a fake and take it back out?

– colmde
2 hours ago





Curious though, if you do cash the cheque, (obviously don't send the bitcoin!) how long does it stay in your account for before the bank realises it's a fake and take it back out?

– colmde
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Yes, it’s a scam. There are red flags all over it. Ask yourself whether you really think a huge multinational like Nissan would work in this way.






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    Absolutely a scam 100% chance. This is one of the most common scams out there.



    Here's how you will get ripped off.




    1. They send you a check which will deposit in your account

    2. Seeing the deposit went through everything looks peachy so you buy and transmit bitcoins.

    3. The check bounces in a few weeks and you are out the money or owe the bank if that gives you a negative balance.

    4. The person you sent the bitcoin to is long gone and you have no way to reverse or dispute the transfer.

    5. If by some miracle they actually let you keep some of the money (the check is real), congrats you just committed a felony and have set yourself as the only accomplice the FBI is likely to be able to track down and arrest.


    To avoid scams in the future always ask yourself one question. Why would a company pay someone, a complete stranger, to do virtually no work? If you can't understand their angle then there is no way it is legit. Don't let greed cloud your vision.



    The added fact that they want you to send the money via an anonymous and irrevocable mechanism SCREAMS scam. No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money for any number of reasons.



    Fake Check Scam






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    • Thanks, I guess I just needed someone to agree with me. I tried to verify through Nissan and a couple of other avenues...they did a good job of making it look legit! Damn I was hoping it wasn't but yes I knew...thanks though for answering me....John

      – john balint
      8 hours ago






    • 3





      "No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.

      – Andrew Savinykh
      6 hours ago






    • 2





      @AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.

      – quid
      5 hours ago











    • Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.

      – jpaugh
      5 hours ago








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      @johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?

      – Harper
      1 hour ago





















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    I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, DOL said they will not get involved that this is between my and my employer. Advise?




    What employer? You are 100% not employed by Nissan Motors....






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      'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.

      – Dan Neely
      5 hours ago



















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    It's not really Nissan.




    • The bank will put a hold on all but $100 of the check amount.

    • After a few days, they will release the money, conditional on you making the money good if the check later bounces (read your bank agreement).

    • You will go "haha, check cleared, money in the bank!"

    • You will send the money onward via Bitcoin, which is irreversible.

    • The check will later bounce.

    • The bank will require you to make the money good Right Now, as agreed.

    • Optional: You are unable. ChexSystems blacklist. No banking for you for 7 years.


    Scammer has your money, you are left holding the bag.



    Money gets used for terror, human trafficking and other crime.



    This works because scammers are really good at creating checks with routing information designed to make the check bounce around the international banking system for many weeks before being definitively declared a fake. Normal checks bounce or clear in just a few days, which is why the bank sets such a short time to releasing the money.






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      Yes, it’s a scam. There are red flags all over it. Ask yourself whether you really think a huge multinational like Nissan would work in this way.






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        Yes, it’s a scam. There are red flags all over it. Ask yourself whether you really think a huge multinational like Nissan would work in this way.






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          Yes, it’s a scam. There are red flags all over it. Ask yourself whether you really think a huge multinational like Nissan would work in this way.






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              Absolutely a scam 100% chance. This is one of the most common scams out there.



              Here's how you will get ripped off.




              1. They send you a check which will deposit in your account

              2. Seeing the deposit went through everything looks peachy so you buy and transmit bitcoins.

              3. The check bounces in a few weeks and you are out the money or owe the bank if that gives you a negative balance.

              4. The person you sent the bitcoin to is long gone and you have no way to reverse or dispute the transfer.

              5. If by some miracle they actually let you keep some of the money (the check is real), congrats you just committed a felony and have set yourself as the only accomplice the FBI is likely to be able to track down and arrest.


              To avoid scams in the future always ask yourself one question. Why would a company pay someone, a complete stranger, to do virtually no work? If you can't understand their angle then there is no way it is legit. Don't let greed cloud your vision.



              The added fact that they want you to send the money via an anonymous and irrevocable mechanism SCREAMS scam. No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money for any number of reasons.



              Fake Check Scam






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              • Thanks, I guess I just needed someone to agree with me. I tried to verify through Nissan and a couple of other avenues...they did a good job of making it look legit! Damn I was hoping it wasn't but yes I knew...thanks though for answering me....John

                – john balint
                8 hours ago






              • 3





                "No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.

                – Andrew Savinykh
                6 hours ago






              • 2





                @AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.

                – quid
                5 hours ago











              • Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.

                – jpaugh
                5 hours ago








              • 2





                @johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?

                – Harper
                1 hour ago


















              25














              Absolutely a scam 100% chance. This is one of the most common scams out there.



              Here's how you will get ripped off.




              1. They send you a check which will deposit in your account

              2. Seeing the deposit went through everything looks peachy so you buy and transmit bitcoins.

              3. The check bounces in a few weeks and you are out the money or owe the bank if that gives you a negative balance.

              4. The person you sent the bitcoin to is long gone and you have no way to reverse or dispute the transfer.

              5. If by some miracle they actually let you keep some of the money (the check is real), congrats you just committed a felony and have set yourself as the only accomplice the FBI is likely to be able to track down and arrest.


              To avoid scams in the future always ask yourself one question. Why would a company pay someone, a complete stranger, to do virtually no work? If you can't understand their angle then there is no way it is legit. Don't let greed cloud your vision.



              The added fact that they want you to send the money via an anonymous and irrevocable mechanism SCREAMS scam. No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money for any number of reasons.



              Fake Check Scam






              share|improve this answer
























              • Thanks, I guess I just needed someone to agree with me. I tried to verify through Nissan and a couple of other avenues...they did a good job of making it look legit! Damn I was hoping it wasn't but yes I knew...thanks though for answering me....John

                – john balint
                8 hours ago






              • 3





                "No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.

                – Andrew Savinykh
                6 hours ago






              • 2





                @AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.

                – quid
                5 hours ago











              • Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.

                – jpaugh
                5 hours ago








              • 2





                @johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?

                – Harper
                1 hour ago
















              25












              25








              25







              Absolutely a scam 100% chance. This is one of the most common scams out there.



              Here's how you will get ripped off.




              1. They send you a check which will deposit in your account

              2. Seeing the deposit went through everything looks peachy so you buy and transmit bitcoins.

              3. The check bounces in a few weeks and you are out the money or owe the bank if that gives you a negative balance.

              4. The person you sent the bitcoin to is long gone and you have no way to reverse or dispute the transfer.

              5. If by some miracle they actually let you keep some of the money (the check is real), congrats you just committed a felony and have set yourself as the only accomplice the FBI is likely to be able to track down and arrest.


              To avoid scams in the future always ask yourself one question. Why would a company pay someone, a complete stranger, to do virtually no work? If you can't understand their angle then there is no way it is legit. Don't let greed cloud your vision.



              The added fact that they want you to send the money via an anonymous and irrevocable mechanism SCREAMS scam. No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money for any number of reasons.



              Fake Check Scam






              share|improve this answer













              Absolutely a scam 100% chance. This is one of the most common scams out there.



              Here's how you will get ripped off.




              1. They send you a check which will deposit in your account

              2. Seeing the deposit went through everything looks peachy so you buy and transmit bitcoins.

              3. The check bounces in a few weeks and you are out the money or owe the bank if that gives you a negative balance.

              4. The person you sent the bitcoin to is long gone and you have no way to reverse or dispute the transfer.

              5. If by some miracle they actually let you keep some of the money (the check is real), congrats you just committed a felony and have set yourself as the only accomplice the FBI is likely to be able to track down and arrest.


              To avoid scams in the future always ask yourself one question. Why would a company pay someone, a complete stranger, to do virtually no work? If you can't understand their angle then there is no way it is legit. Don't let greed cloud your vision.



              The added fact that they want you to send the money via an anonymous and irrevocable mechanism SCREAMS scam. No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money for any number of reasons.



              Fake Check Scam







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              • Thanks, I guess I just needed someone to agree with me. I tried to verify through Nissan and a couple of other avenues...they did a good job of making it look legit! Damn I was hoping it wasn't but yes I knew...thanks though for answering me....John

                – john balint
                8 hours ago






              • 3





                "No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.

                – Andrew Savinykh
                6 hours ago






              • 2





                @AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.

                – quid
                5 hours ago











              • Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.

                – jpaugh
                5 hours ago








              • 2





                @johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?

                – Harper
                1 hour ago





















              • Thanks, I guess I just needed someone to agree with me. I tried to verify through Nissan and a couple of other avenues...they did a good job of making it look legit! Damn I was hoping it wasn't but yes I knew...thanks though for answering me....John

                – john balint
                8 hours ago






              • 3





                "No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.

                – Andrew Savinykh
                6 hours ago






              • 2





                @AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.

                – quid
                5 hours ago











              • Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.

                – jpaugh
                5 hours ago








              • 2





                @johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?

                – Harper
                1 hour ago



















              Thanks, I guess I just needed someone to agree with me. I tried to verify through Nissan and a couple of other avenues...they did a good job of making it look legit! Damn I was hoping it wasn't but yes I knew...thanks though for answering me....John

              – john balint
              8 hours ago





              Thanks, I guess I just needed someone to agree with me. I tried to verify through Nissan and a couple of other avenues...they did a good job of making it look legit! Damn I was hoping it wasn't but yes I knew...thanks though for answering me....John

              – john balint
              8 hours ago




              3




              3





              "No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.

              – Andrew Savinykh
              6 hours ago





              "No legitimate business is going to use bitcoin for transferring money" many people wish it was true but it is not. More and more business around the world start relying on electronic currencies.

              – Andrew Savinykh
              6 hours ago




              2




              2





              @AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.

              – quid
              5 hours ago





              @AndrewSavinykh Yes, NISSAN needed a brand new employee to CASH customer money and convert it in to bitcoin. I think the businesses using this the most are scammers like the one this person bumped in to prompting this question.

              – quid
              5 hours ago













              Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.

              – jpaugh
              5 hours ago







              Forget about Bitcoin. The big and obvious give-away is that the OP did not sign a contract with Nissan. They're not going to send money to someone they have no contractual relationship with.

              – jpaugh
              5 hours ago






              2




              2





              @johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?

              – Harper
              1 hour ago







              @johnbalint when you "confirmed through Nissan", did you use contact information that the scammer gave you?

              – Harper
              1 hour ago













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              I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, DOL said they will not get involved that this is between my and my employer. Advise?




              What employer? You are 100% not employed by Nissan Motors....






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                'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.

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              I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, DOL said they will not get involved that this is between my and my employer. Advise?




              What employer? You are 100% not employed by Nissan Motors....






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                5 hours ago














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              I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, DOL said they will not get involved that this is between my and my employer. Advise?




              What employer? You are 100% not employed by Nissan Motors....






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              I contacted a lawyer, told to talk to Dept of Labor, DOL said they will not get involved that this is between my and my employer. Advise?




              What employer? You are 100% not employed by Nissan Motors....







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              • 3





                'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.

                – Dan Neely
                5 hours ago














              • 3





                'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.

                – Dan Neely
                5 hours ago








              3




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              'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.

              – Dan Neely
              5 hours ago





              'filthy rotten scammers co' is the employer.

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              5 hours ago











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              It's not really Nissan.




              • The bank will put a hold on all but $100 of the check amount.

              • After a few days, they will release the money, conditional on you making the money good if the check later bounces (read your bank agreement).

              • You will go "haha, check cleared, money in the bank!"

              • You will send the money onward via Bitcoin, which is irreversible.

              • The check will later bounce.

              • The bank will require you to make the money good Right Now, as agreed.

              • Optional: You are unable. ChexSystems blacklist. No banking for you for 7 years.


              Scammer has your money, you are left holding the bag.



              Money gets used for terror, human trafficking and other crime.



              This works because scammers are really good at creating checks with routing information designed to make the check bounce around the international banking system for many weeks before being definitively declared a fake. Normal checks bounce or clear in just a few days, which is why the bank sets such a short time to releasing the money.






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                It's not really Nissan.




                • The bank will put a hold on all but $100 of the check amount.

                • After a few days, they will release the money, conditional on you making the money good if the check later bounces (read your bank agreement).

                • You will go "haha, check cleared, money in the bank!"

                • You will send the money onward via Bitcoin, which is irreversible.

                • The check will later bounce.

                • The bank will require you to make the money good Right Now, as agreed.

                • Optional: You are unable. ChexSystems blacklist. No banking for you for 7 years.


                Scammer has your money, you are left holding the bag.



                Money gets used for terror, human trafficking and other crime.



                This works because scammers are really good at creating checks with routing information designed to make the check bounce around the international banking system for many weeks before being definitively declared a fake. Normal checks bounce or clear in just a few days, which is why the bank sets such a short time to releasing the money.






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                  It's not really Nissan.




                  • The bank will put a hold on all but $100 of the check amount.

                  • After a few days, they will release the money, conditional on you making the money good if the check later bounces (read your bank agreement).

                  • You will go "haha, check cleared, money in the bank!"

                  • You will send the money onward via Bitcoin, which is irreversible.

                  • The check will later bounce.

                  • The bank will require you to make the money good Right Now, as agreed.

                  • Optional: You are unable. ChexSystems blacklist. No banking for you for 7 years.


                  Scammer has your money, you are left holding the bag.



                  Money gets used for terror, human trafficking and other crime.



                  This works because scammers are really good at creating checks with routing information designed to make the check bounce around the international banking system for many weeks before being definitively declared a fake. Normal checks bounce or clear in just a few days, which is why the bank sets such a short time to releasing the money.






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                  It's not really Nissan.




                  • The bank will put a hold on all but $100 of the check amount.

                  • After a few days, they will release the money, conditional on you making the money good if the check later bounces (read your bank agreement).

                  • You will go "haha, check cleared, money in the bank!"

                  • You will send the money onward via Bitcoin, which is irreversible.

                  • The check will later bounce.

                  • The bank will require you to make the money good Right Now, as agreed.

                  • Optional: You are unable. ChexSystems blacklist. No banking for you for 7 years.


                  Scammer has your money, you are left holding the bag.



                  Money gets used for terror, human trafficking and other crime.



                  This works because scammers are really good at creating checks with routing information designed to make the check bounce around the international banking system for many weeks before being definitively declared a fake. Normal checks bounce or clear in just a few days, which is why the bank sets such a short time to releasing the money.







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