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We would like to create a retry kafka mechanism for failures. I saw many introduced a way of have.multiple 'retry' topics. Was wondering why cant i simplify the flow by clone the message add into it a retry-counter field and just re-produce it on the same topic until reached X times and then exhausted.



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    We would like to create a retry kafka mechanism for failures. I saw many introduced a way of have.multiple 'retry' topics. Was wondering why cant i simplify the flow by clone the message add into it a retry-counter field and just re-produce it on the same topic until reached X times and then exhausted.



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      We would like to create a retry kafka mechanism for failures. I saw many introduced a way of have.multiple 'retry' topics. Was wondering why cant i simplify the flow by clone the message add into it a retry-counter field and just re-produce it on the same topic until reached X times and then exhausted.



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      We would like to create a retry kafka mechanism for failures. I saw many introduced a way of have.multiple 'retry' topics. Was wondering why cant i simplify the flow by clone the message add into it a retry-counter field and just re-produce it on the same topic until reached X times and then exhausted.



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          Not Sure if I understand the question correctly. Nevertheless, I would suggest that you have some Kafka 'retry' strategies.




          • Messages in 'retry' topics are already sorted in ‘retry_timestamp’
            order

          • Because postponing message processing in case of failure is not a trivial process

          • If you would like to postpone processing of
            some messages, you can republish them to separate topics, one for
            each with some delay value

          • The failed messages processing can be
            achieved by cloning the message and later republishing it to one of
            the retry topics

          • Consumers of retry topics could block the thread
            (unless it is time to process the message)






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          • thanks for your reply. how Messages in 'retry' topics are already sorted in ‘retry_timestamp’ order ?? i mean if i take them in batch there is a chanse that ill miss the retry buffer time coz the same message wont be on that batch

            – rayman
            Nov 26 '18 at 9:07











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          Not Sure if I understand the question correctly. Nevertheless, I would suggest that you have some Kafka 'retry' strategies.




          • Messages in 'retry' topics are already sorted in ‘retry_timestamp’
            order

          • Because postponing message processing in case of failure is not a trivial process

          • If you would like to postpone processing of
            some messages, you can republish them to separate topics, one for
            each with some delay value

          • The failed messages processing can be
            achieved by cloning the message and later republishing it to one of
            the retry topics

          • Consumers of retry topics could block the thread
            (unless it is time to process the message)






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          • thanks for your reply. how Messages in 'retry' topics are already sorted in ‘retry_timestamp’ order ?? i mean if i take them in batch there is a chanse that ill miss the retry buffer time coz the same message wont be on that batch

            – rayman
            Nov 26 '18 at 9:07
















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          Not Sure if I understand the question correctly. Nevertheless, I would suggest that you have some Kafka 'retry' strategies.




          • Messages in 'retry' topics are already sorted in ‘retry_timestamp’
            order

          • Because postponing message processing in case of failure is not a trivial process

          • If you would like to postpone processing of
            some messages, you can republish them to separate topics, one for
            each with some delay value

          • The failed messages processing can be
            achieved by cloning the message and later republishing it to one of
            the retry topics

          • Consumers of retry topics could block the thread
            (unless it is time to process the message)






          share|improve this answer
























          • thanks for your reply. how Messages in 'retry' topics are already sorted in ‘retry_timestamp’ order ?? i mean if i take them in batch there is a chanse that ill miss the retry buffer time coz the same message wont be on that batch

            – rayman
            Nov 26 '18 at 9:07














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          Not Sure if I understand the question correctly. Nevertheless, I would suggest that you have some Kafka 'retry' strategies.




          • Messages in 'retry' topics are already sorted in ‘retry_timestamp’
            order

          • Because postponing message processing in case of failure is not a trivial process

          • If you would like to postpone processing of
            some messages, you can republish them to separate topics, one for
            each with some delay value

          • The failed messages processing can be
            achieved by cloning the message and later republishing it to one of
            the retry topics

          • Consumers of retry topics could block the thread
            (unless it is time to process the message)






          share|improve this answer













          Not Sure if I understand the question correctly. Nevertheless, I would suggest that you have some Kafka 'retry' strategies.




          • Messages in 'retry' topics are already sorted in ‘retry_timestamp’
            order

          • Because postponing message processing in case of failure is not a trivial process

          • If you would like to postpone processing of
            some messages, you can republish them to separate topics, one for
            each with some delay value

          • The failed messages processing can be
            achieved by cloning the message and later republishing it to one of
            the retry topics

          • Consumers of retry topics could block the thread
            (unless it is time to process the message)







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          • thanks for your reply. how Messages in 'retry' topics are already sorted in ‘retry_timestamp’ order ?? i mean if i take them in batch there is a chanse that ill miss the retry buffer time coz the same message wont be on that batch

            – rayman
            Nov 26 '18 at 9:07



















          • thanks for your reply. how Messages in 'retry' topics are already sorted in ‘retry_timestamp’ order ?? i mean if i take them in batch there is a chanse that ill miss the retry buffer time coz the same message wont be on that batch

            – rayman
            Nov 26 '18 at 9:07

















          thanks for your reply. how Messages in 'retry' topics are already sorted in ‘retry_timestamp’ order ?? i mean if i take them in batch there is a chanse that ill miss the retry buffer time coz the same message wont be on that batch

          – rayman
          Nov 26 '18 at 9:07





          thanks for your reply. how Messages in 'retry' topics are already sorted in ‘retry_timestamp’ order ?? i mean if i take them in batch there is a chanse that ill miss the retry buffer time coz the same message wont be on that batch

          – rayman
          Nov 26 '18 at 9:07


















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