Explicit solution of a Hamiltonian system












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It is well-known that the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^2),
end{array}right.
end{eqnarray}

with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^4}{4}$$
has the solution
$$ x=tanh(frac{t}{sqrt2}),y=frac1{sqrt2}text{sech}^2(frac{t}{sqrt2}) $$
such that $H(x,y)=frac14$.



Now consider the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^4),
end{array}right.tag{1}
end{eqnarray}

with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}{6}$$
and I want to find the explicit solution such that $H(x,y)=frac{1}{3}$. I tried many ways to get the solution but failed. Any help is appreciated.










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It is well-known that the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^2),
end{array}right.
end{eqnarray}

with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^4}{4}$$
has the solution
$$ x=tanh(frac{t}{sqrt2}),y=frac1{sqrt2}text{sech}^2(frac{t}{sqrt2}) $$
such that $H(x,y)=frac14$.



Now consider the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^4),
end{array}right.tag{1}
end{eqnarray}

with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}{6}$$
and I want to find the explicit solution such that $H(x,y)=frac{1}{3}$. I tried many ways to get the solution but failed. Any help is appreciated.










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    Something is wrong here: when I plug $t=0$ in your solution of the first system,
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It is well-known that the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^2),
end{array}right.
end{eqnarray}

with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^4}{4}$$
has the solution
$$ x=tanh(frac{t}{sqrt2}),y=frac1{sqrt2}text{sech}^2(frac{t}{sqrt2}) $$
such that $H(x,y)=frac14$.



Now consider the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^4),
end{array}right.tag{1}
end{eqnarray}

with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}{6}$$
and I want to find the explicit solution such that $H(x,y)=frac{1}{3}$. I tried many ways to get the solution but failed. Any help is appreciated.










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It is well-known that the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^2),
end{array}right.
end{eqnarray}

with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^4}{4}$$
has the solution
$$ x=tanh(frac{t}{sqrt2}),y=frac1{sqrt2}text{sech}^2(frac{t}{sqrt2}) $$
such that $H(x,y)=frac14$.



Now consider the following Hamiltonian system
begin{eqnarray}
left{begin{array}{rcl}
frac{dx}{dt}&=&y,\
frac{dy}{dt}&=&x(-1+x^4),
end{array}right.tag{1}
end{eqnarray}

with
$$ H(x,y)=frac{x^2}2+frac{y^2}{2}-frac{x^6}{6}$$
and I want to find the explicit solution such that $H(x,y)=frac{1}{3}$. I tried many ways to get the solution but failed. Any help is appreciated.







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  • $begingroup$
    Something is wrong here: when I plug $t=0$ in your solution of the first system,
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Eremenko
    6 hours ago


















  • $begingroup$
    Something is wrong here: when I plug $t=0$ in your solution of the first system,
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Eremenko
    6 hours ago
















$begingroup$
Something is wrong here: when I plug $t=0$ in your solution of the first system,
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Eremenko
6 hours ago




$begingroup$
Something is wrong here: when I plug $t=0$ in your solution of the first system,
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6 hours ago










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Surprisingly, there is an elementary solutio, if I made no mistake in
the following computation.



Your equation is equivalent to
$$(x')^2=frac{1}{3}(x^6-3x^2+2),$$
(I just plugged $y=x'$ to your Hamiltonian, and used its value $1/3$.)
This equation is separable,
$$t/sqrt{3}=intfrac{dx}{sqrt{x^6-3x^2+2}}=I$$
and requires inversion of the integral.



To reduce it
to a standard integral, change $x^2=1/(u+1), ; dx=-(1/2)(u+1)^{-3/2}du,$ and the integral becomes
$$I=-frac{1}{sqrt{2}}intfrac{du}{usqrt{2u+3}}.$$
The inverse function is elementary.






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Surprisingly, there is an elementary solutio, if I made no mistake in
the following computation.



Your equation is equivalent to
$$(x')^2=frac{1}{3}(x^6-3x^2+2),$$
(I just plugged $y=x'$ to your Hamiltonian, and used its value $1/3$.)
This equation is separable,
$$t/sqrt{3}=intfrac{dx}{sqrt{x^6-3x^2+2}}=I$$
and requires inversion of the integral.



To reduce it
to a standard integral, change $x^2=1/(u+1), ; dx=-(1/2)(u+1)^{-3/2}du,$ and the integral becomes
$$I=-frac{1}{sqrt{2}}intfrac{du}{usqrt{2u+3}}.$$
The inverse function is elementary.






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Edited.



Surprisingly, there is an elementary solutio, if I made no mistake in
the following computation.



Your equation is equivalent to
$$(x')^2=frac{1}{3}(x^6-3x^2+2),$$
(I just plugged $y=x'$ to your Hamiltonian, and used its value $1/3$.)
This equation is separable,
$$t/sqrt{3}=intfrac{dx}{sqrt{x^6-3x^2+2}}=I$$
and requires inversion of the integral.



To reduce it
to a standard integral, change $x^2=1/(u+1), ; dx=-(1/2)(u+1)^{-3/2}du,$ and the integral becomes
$$I=-frac{1}{sqrt{2}}intfrac{du}{usqrt{2u+3}}.$$
The inverse function is elementary.






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Edited.



Surprisingly, there is an elementary solutio, if I made no mistake in
the following computation.



Your equation is equivalent to
$$(x')^2=frac{1}{3}(x^6-3x^2+2),$$
(I just plugged $y=x'$ to your Hamiltonian, and used its value $1/3$.)
This equation is separable,
$$t/sqrt{3}=intfrac{dx}{sqrt{x^6-3x^2+2}}=I$$
and requires inversion of the integral.



To reduce it
to a standard integral, change $x^2=1/(u+1), ; dx=-(1/2)(u+1)^{-3/2}du,$ and the integral becomes
$$I=-frac{1}{sqrt{2}}intfrac{du}{usqrt{2u+3}}.$$
The inverse function is elementary.






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Edited.



Surprisingly, there is an elementary solutio, if I made no mistake in
the following computation.



Your equation is equivalent to
$$(x')^2=frac{1}{3}(x^6-3x^2+2),$$
(I just plugged $y=x'$ to your Hamiltonian, and used its value $1/3$.)
This equation is separable,
$$t/sqrt{3}=intfrac{dx}{sqrt{x^6-3x^2+2}}=I$$
and requires inversion of the integral.



To reduce it
to a standard integral, change $x^2=1/(u+1), ; dx=-(1/2)(u+1)^{-3/2}du,$ and the integral becomes
$$I=-frac{1}{sqrt{2}}intfrac{du}{usqrt{2u+3}}.$$
The inverse function is elementary.







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