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The net force on an object is equal to the mass times the acceleration, $F = ma$



When I brake on a (moving) car, the net force is negative, therefore causing the resulting acceleration to also be negative. This all makes sense, but if the acceleration of the car is negative, why does it not keep moving backward? I know cars in real life come to a stop, but I am having trouble explaining why the car does not continue to accelerate backward while the brakes are applied, with physics, so to speak.



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    The simplest answer is that the brakes only apply an accelerating force to the car's mass while the car is moving.
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The net force on an object is equal to the mass times the acceleration, $F = ma$



When I brake on a (moving) car, the net force is negative, therefore causing the resulting acceleration to also be negative. This all makes sense, but if the acceleration of the car is negative, why does it not keep moving backward? I know cars in real life come to a stop, but I am having trouble explaining why the car does not continue to accelerate backward while the brakes are applied, with physics, so to speak.



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    The simplest answer is that the brakes only apply an accelerating force to the car's mass while the car is moving.
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The net force on an object is equal to the mass times the acceleration, $F = ma$



When I brake on a (moving) car, the net force is negative, therefore causing the resulting acceleration to also be negative. This all makes sense, but if the acceleration of the car is negative, why does it not keep moving backward? I know cars in real life come to a stop, but I am having trouble explaining why the car does not continue to accelerate backward while the brakes are applied, with physics, so to speak.



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This is going to sound like a stupid question. It sounds stupid in my head. But here goes.



The net force on an object is equal to the mass times the acceleration, $F = ma$



When I brake on a (moving) car, the net force is negative, therefore causing the resulting acceleration to also be negative. This all makes sense, but if the acceleration of the car is negative, why does it not keep moving backward? I know cars in real life come to a stop, but I am having trouble explaining why the car does not continue to accelerate backward while the brakes are applied, with physics, so to speak.



Where is the logic incorrect?







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    The simplest answer is that the brakes only apply an accelerating force to the car's mass while the car is moving.
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    The simplest answer is that the brakes only apply an accelerating force to the car's mass while the car is moving.
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The simplest answer is that the brakes only apply an accelerating force to the car's mass while the car is moving.
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The simplest answer is that the brakes only apply an accelerating force to the car's mass while the car is moving.
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A notable property of frictional forces is that they resist motion (as opposed to other types of forces, which might resist displacement, for example, which is how a spring behaves). As a result, the brakes on your car slow down the motion of your wheels that produce forward movement of your car—but they also slow down motion that would produce reverse movement.



If instead you used another type of force-applying mechanicam to slow down your car (e.g., a giant spring), then your car would slow down, then stop, and then start moving backwards.






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    Acceleration is "the rate of change of velocity per unit of time" . It is not a force-applying [mechanism]. +1
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Cars move because the wheels are spinning in a certain direction. Brakes work by making the wheels not spin, not by making them spin in the opposite direction.



If instead of slamming the brakes you "brake" a car by having some other kind of force pushing it backwards, like a super huge fan in front of it, then yes, it might begin moving backwards.






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    Here's a gif of brake pads working. May help to visualize it.
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When you apply the brakes we all know it produces a net force backwards so we all know the resultant force is acting backwards . But when the resultant foce acts backwards it doen ot mean that the object should travel backwards .



At the instant the the brakes are applied the object has a certain velocity , lets take it as V1 ehich is positive assuming the car moves backwards at the the same instant meaning it should have a V2 which is negative. (Note that: velocity is a vector so the direction is really important. ) This situation causes the object to have a infinite decellaration considering the resultant force stays constant .




  1. Decellartion can never be infinity.

  2. Once the object has a zero velocity it will never travel backwards because friction is an opposing force when there is motion , Now there is no motion so no friction .Therefore no resultant force resulting in no motion.


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Normally a graph for velocity when braking is like this.






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    A notable property of frictional forces is that they resist motion (as opposed to other types of forces, which might resist displacement, for example, which is how a spring behaves). As a result, the brakes on your car slow down the motion of your wheels that produce forward movement of your car—but they also slow down motion that would produce reverse movement.



    If instead you used another type of force-applying mechanicam to slow down your car (e.g., a giant spring), then your car would slow down, then stop, and then start moving backwards.






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      Acceleration is "the rate of change of velocity per unit of time" . It is not a force-applying [mechanism]. +1
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    A notable property of frictional forces is that they resist motion (as opposed to other types of forces, which might resist displacement, for example, which is how a spring behaves). As a result, the brakes on your car slow down the motion of your wheels that produce forward movement of your car—but they also slow down motion that would produce reverse movement.



    If instead you used another type of force-applying mechanicam to slow down your car (e.g., a giant spring), then your car would slow down, then stop, and then start moving backwards.






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      Acceleration is "the rate of change of velocity per unit of time" . It is not a force-applying [mechanism]. +1
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    A notable property of frictional forces is that they resist motion (as opposed to other types of forces, which might resist displacement, for example, which is how a spring behaves). As a result, the brakes on your car slow down the motion of your wheels that produce forward movement of your car—but they also slow down motion that would produce reverse movement.



    If instead you used another type of force-applying mechanicam to slow down your car (e.g., a giant spring), then your car would slow down, then stop, and then start moving backwards.






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    A notable property of frictional forces is that they resist motion (as opposed to other types of forces, which might resist displacement, for example, which is how a spring behaves). As a result, the brakes on your car slow down the motion of your wheels that produce forward movement of your car—but they also slow down motion that would produce reverse movement.



    If instead you used another type of force-applying mechanicam to slow down your car (e.g., a giant spring), then your car would slow down, then stop, and then start moving backwards.







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      Acceleration is "the rate of change of velocity per unit of time" . It is not a force-applying [mechanism]. +1
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      Acceleration is "the rate of change of velocity per unit of time" . It is not a force-applying [mechanism]. +1
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    Acceleration is "the rate of change of velocity per unit of time" . It is not a force-applying [mechanism]. +1
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    Acceleration is "the rate of change of velocity per unit of time" . It is not a force-applying [mechanism]. +1
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    Cars move because the wheels are spinning in a certain direction. Brakes work by making the wheels not spin, not by making them spin in the opposite direction.



    If instead of slamming the brakes you "brake" a car by having some other kind of force pushing it backwards, like a super huge fan in front of it, then yes, it might begin moving backwards.






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      Here's a gif of brake pads working. May help to visualize it.
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    Cars move because the wheels are spinning in a certain direction. Brakes work by making the wheels not spin, not by making them spin in the opposite direction.



    If instead of slamming the brakes you "brake" a car by having some other kind of force pushing it backwards, like a super huge fan in front of it, then yes, it might begin moving backwards.






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      Here's a gif of brake pads working. May help to visualize it.
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    Cars move because the wheels are spinning in a certain direction. Brakes work by making the wheels not spin, not by making them spin in the opposite direction.



    If instead of slamming the brakes you "brake" a car by having some other kind of force pushing it backwards, like a super huge fan in front of it, then yes, it might begin moving backwards.






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    Cars move because the wheels are spinning in a certain direction. Brakes work by making the wheels not spin, not by making them spin in the opposite direction.



    If instead of slamming the brakes you "brake" a car by having some other kind of force pushing it backwards, like a super huge fan in front of it, then yes, it might begin moving backwards.







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      Here's a gif of brake pads working. May help to visualize it.
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      Here's a gif of brake pads working. May help to visualize it.
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    Here's a gif of brake pads working. May help to visualize it.
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    Here's a gif of brake pads working. May help to visualize it.
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    When you apply the brakes we all know it produces a net force backwards so we all know the resultant force is acting backwards . But when the resultant foce acts backwards it doen ot mean that the object should travel backwards .



    At the instant the the brakes are applied the object has a certain velocity , lets take it as V1 ehich is positive assuming the car moves backwards at the the same instant meaning it should have a V2 which is negative. (Note that: velocity is a vector so the direction is really important. ) This situation causes the object to have a infinite decellaration considering the resultant force stays constant .




    1. Decellartion can never be infinity.

    2. Once the object has a zero velocity it will never travel backwards because friction is an opposing force when there is motion , Now there is no motion so no friction .Therefore no resultant force resulting in no motion.


    enter image description here



    Normally a graph for velocity when braking is like this.






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      When you apply the brakes we all know it produces a net force backwards so we all know the resultant force is acting backwards . But when the resultant foce acts backwards it doen ot mean that the object should travel backwards .



      At the instant the the brakes are applied the object has a certain velocity , lets take it as V1 ehich is positive assuming the car moves backwards at the the same instant meaning it should have a V2 which is negative. (Note that: velocity is a vector so the direction is really important. ) This situation causes the object to have a infinite decellaration considering the resultant force stays constant .




      1. Decellartion can never be infinity.

      2. Once the object has a zero velocity it will never travel backwards because friction is an opposing force when there is motion , Now there is no motion so no friction .Therefore no resultant force resulting in no motion.


      enter image description here



      Normally a graph for velocity when braking is like this.






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        When you apply the brakes we all know it produces a net force backwards so we all know the resultant force is acting backwards . But when the resultant foce acts backwards it doen ot mean that the object should travel backwards .



        At the instant the the brakes are applied the object has a certain velocity , lets take it as V1 ehich is positive assuming the car moves backwards at the the same instant meaning it should have a V2 which is negative. (Note that: velocity is a vector so the direction is really important. ) This situation causes the object to have a infinite decellaration considering the resultant force stays constant .




        1. Decellartion can never be infinity.

        2. Once the object has a zero velocity it will never travel backwards because friction is an opposing force when there is motion , Now there is no motion so no friction .Therefore no resultant force resulting in no motion.


        enter image description here



        Normally a graph for velocity when braking is like this.






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        When you apply the brakes we all know it produces a net force backwards so we all know the resultant force is acting backwards . But when the resultant foce acts backwards it doen ot mean that the object should travel backwards .



        At the instant the the brakes are applied the object has a certain velocity , lets take it as V1 ehich is positive assuming the car moves backwards at the the same instant meaning it should have a V2 which is negative. (Note that: velocity is a vector so the direction is really important. ) This situation causes the object to have a infinite decellaration considering the resultant force stays constant .




        1. Decellartion can never be infinity.

        2. Once the object has a zero velocity it will never travel backwards because friction is an opposing force when there is motion , Now there is no motion so no friction .Therefore no resultant force resulting in no motion.


        enter image description here



        Normally a graph for velocity when braking is like this.







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