Liquor making with Time related magic in an ancient-medieval world












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So you can accelerate or reverse time of an inanimate/non sentient object within a limited space.



Despite having such powers, you don't want to rule the world. Instead you want to make alcoholic drinks.



Assuming you have only basic knowledge of making liquor of all kinds, how will your time related magic make you really good at making alcoholic drinks?



Additionally, how to become filthy rich in making liquors?






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    Buy a vineyard. Use your time warping magic on the vineyard, making it produce a full crop of ripe grapes daily. This will increase the output of your winery 365 times, with a corresponding increase in profit. If you are mischievous, you could also work your time warping magic on the competing wineries, making their vineyards produce a crop of grapes once every century; this will give you monopoly power. (Note: this is not an answer. This is exquisitely subtle criticism intended to make the querent think again about their question.)
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    – AlexP
    4 hours ago








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    @AlexP wont that degrade the land fertility at a really astonishing rate?
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    – mico villena
    4 hours ago










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    "Degrade the land fertility:" How so? Isn't the soil also a "inanimate/non sentient object", subject the time warping magic? In the end, all this does is accelerate the exhaustion of the Sun's nuclear fusion fuel, but only a little.
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    4 hours ago












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    @AlexP yes it is but the nutrients inside the soil is limited. By continuously harvesting grapes through time accelerations, land is degraded further and further due to high nutrients/minerals needed for continuous production of the fruit due to intensive use of time magic. Nutrients/minerals are not being restored/resupplied on the land(Nitrogen Cycle), Sure it can be done with fertilizer but over application will result on a degraded product or simply lack of other nutrients needed for a proper/prime grapes to be harvested and used for production.
    $endgroup$
    – mico villena
    3 hours ago






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    I would suggest you study wine making, wine selling, and vineyards a bit more because old wine is not always better and most wine is drank within 5 years of bottling - and there is a whole host of questions one would have to ask about PH balances and other soil conditions if we start "speeding up or slowing down" the vines themselves. (actually whiskey and other barrel aged drinks might bea better fit for this type of magic)
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    – JGreenwell
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$begingroup$


So you can accelerate or reverse time of an inanimate/non sentient object within a limited space.



Despite having such powers, you don't want to rule the world. Instead you want to make alcoholic drinks.



Assuming you have only basic knowledge of making liquor of all kinds, how will your time related magic make you really good at making alcoholic drinks?



Additionally, how to become filthy rich in making liquors?






reality-check magic food time-manipulation







share|improve this question











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  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Buy a vineyard. Use your time warping magic on the vineyard, making it produce a full crop of ripe grapes daily. This will increase the output of your winery 365 times, with a corresponding increase in profit. If you are mischievous, you could also work your time warping magic on the competing wineries, making their vineyards produce a crop of grapes once every century; this will give you monopoly power. (Note: this is not an answer. This is exquisitely subtle criticism intended to make the querent think again about their question.)
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    4 hours ago








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    $begingroup$
    @AlexP wont that degrade the land fertility at a really astonishing rate?
    $endgroup$
    – mico villena
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    "Degrade the land fertility:" How so? Isn't the soil also a "inanimate/non sentient object", subject the time warping magic? In the end, all this does is accelerate the exhaustion of the Sun's nuclear fusion fuel, but only a little.
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    4 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    @AlexP yes it is but the nutrients inside the soil is limited. By continuously harvesting grapes through time accelerations, land is degraded further and further due to high nutrients/minerals needed for continuous production of the fruit due to intensive use of time magic. Nutrients/minerals are not being restored/resupplied on the land(Nitrogen Cycle), Sure it can be done with fertilizer but over application will result on a degraded product or simply lack of other nutrients needed for a proper/prime grapes to be harvested and used for production.
    $endgroup$
    – mico villena
    3 hours ago






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    I would suggest you study wine making, wine selling, and vineyards a bit more because old wine is not always better and most wine is drank within 5 years of bottling - and there is a whole host of questions one would have to ask about PH balances and other soil conditions if we start "speeding up or slowing down" the vines themselves. (actually whiskey and other barrel aged drinks might bea better fit for this type of magic)
    $endgroup$
    – JGreenwell
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So you can accelerate or reverse time of an inanimate/non sentient object within a limited space.



Despite having such powers, you don't want to rule the world. Instead you want to make alcoholic drinks.



Assuming you have only basic knowledge of making liquor of all kinds, how will your time related magic make you really good at making alcoholic drinks?



Additionally, how to become filthy rich in making liquors?






reality-check magic food time-manipulation







share|improve this question











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So you can accelerate or reverse time of an inanimate/non sentient object within a limited space.



Despite having such powers, you don't want to rule the world. Instead you want to make alcoholic drinks.



Assuming you have only basic knowledge of making liquor of all kinds, how will your time related magic make you really good at making alcoholic drinks?



Additionally, how to become filthy rich in making liquors?






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  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Buy a vineyard. Use your time warping magic on the vineyard, making it produce a full crop of ripe grapes daily. This will increase the output of your winery 365 times, with a corresponding increase in profit. If you are mischievous, you could also work your time warping magic on the competing wineries, making their vineyards produce a crop of grapes once every century; this will give you monopoly power. (Note: this is not an answer. This is exquisitely subtle criticism intended to make the querent think again about their question.)
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    4 hours ago








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    $begingroup$
    @AlexP wont that degrade the land fertility at a really astonishing rate?
    $endgroup$
    – mico villena
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    "Degrade the land fertility:" How so? Isn't the soil also a "inanimate/non sentient object", subject the time warping magic? In the end, all this does is accelerate the exhaustion of the Sun's nuclear fusion fuel, but only a little.
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    4 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    @AlexP yes it is but the nutrients inside the soil is limited. By continuously harvesting grapes through time accelerations, land is degraded further and further due to high nutrients/minerals needed for continuous production of the fruit due to intensive use of time magic. Nutrients/minerals are not being restored/resupplied on the land(Nitrogen Cycle), Sure it can be done with fertilizer but over application will result on a degraded product or simply lack of other nutrients needed for a proper/prime grapes to be harvested and used for production.
    $endgroup$
    – mico villena
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I would suggest you study wine making, wine selling, and vineyards a bit more because old wine is not always better and most wine is drank within 5 years of bottling - and there is a whole host of questions one would have to ask about PH balances and other soil conditions if we start "speeding up or slowing down" the vines themselves. (actually whiskey and other barrel aged drinks might bea better fit for this type of magic)
    $endgroup$
    – JGreenwell
    3 hours ago
















  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Buy a vineyard. Use your time warping magic on the vineyard, making it produce a full crop of ripe grapes daily. This will increase the output of your winery 365 times, with a corresponding increase in profit. If you are mischievous, you could also work your time warping magic on the competing wineries, making their vineyards produce a crop of grapes once every century; this will give you monopoly power. (Note: this is not an answer. This is exquisitely subtle criticism intended to make the querent think again about their question.)
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    4 hours ago








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @AlexP wont that degrade the land fertility at a really astonishing rate?
    $endgroup$
    – mico villena
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    "Degrade the land fertility:" How so? Isn't the soil also a "inanimate/non sentient object", subject the time warping magic? In the end, all this does is accelerate the exhaustion of the Sun's nuclear fusion fuel, but only a little.
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    4 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    @AlexP yes it is but the nutrients inside the soil is limited. By continuously harvesting grapes through time accelerations, land is degraded further and further due to high nutrients/minerals needed for continuous production of the fruit due to intensive use of time magic. Nutrients/minerals are not being restored/resupplied on the land(Nitrogen Cycle), Sure it can be done with fertilizer but over application will result on a degraded product or simply lack of other nutrients needed for a proper/prime grapes to be harvested and used for production.
    $endgroup$
    – mico villena
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I would suggest you study wine making, wine selling, and vineyards a bit more because old wine is not always better and most wine is drank within 5 years of bottling - and there is a whole host of questions one would have to ask about PH balances and other soil conditions if we start "speeding up or slowing down" the vines themselves. (actually whiskey and other barrel aged drinks might bea better fit for this type of magic)
    $endgroup$
    – JGreenwell
    3 hours ago










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$begingroup$
Buy a vineyard. Use your time warping magic on the vineyard, making it produce a full crop of ripe grapes daily. This will increase the output of your winery 365 times, with a corresponding increase in profit. If you are mischievous, you could also work your time warping magic on the competing wineries, making their vineyards produce a crop of grapes once every century; this will give you monopoly power. (Note: this is not an answer. This is exquisitely subtle criticism intended to make the querent think again about their question.)
$endgroup$
– AlexP
4 hours ago






$begingroup$
Buy a vineyard. Use your time warping magic on the vineyard, making it produce a full crop of ripe grapes daily. This will increase the output of your winery 365 times, with a corresponding increase in profit. If you are mischievous, you could also work your time warping magic on the competing wineries, making their vineyards produce a crop of grapes once every century; this will give you monopoly power. (Note: this is not an answer. This is exquisitely subtle criticism intended to make the querent think again about their question.)
$endgroup$
– AlexP
4 hours ago






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@AlexP wont that degrade the land fertility at a really astonishing rate?
$endgroup$
– mico villena
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
@AlexP wont that degrade the land fertility at a really astonishing rate?
$endgroup$
– mico villena
4 hours ago












$begingroup$
"Degrade the land fertility:" How so? Isn't the soil also a "inanimate/non sentient object", subject the time warping magic? In the end, all this does is accelerate the exhaustion of the Sun's nuclear fusion fuel, but only a little.
$endgroup$
– AlexP
4 hours ago






$begingroup$
"Degrade the land fertility:" How so? Isn't the soil also a "inanimate/non sentient object", subject the time warping magic? In the end, all this does is accelerate the exhaustion of the Sun's nuclear fusion fuel, but only a little.
$endgroup$
– AlexP
4 hours ago














$begingroup$
@AlexP yes it is but the nutrients inside the soil is limited. By continuously harvesting grapes through time accelerations, land is degraded further and further due to high nutrients/minerals needed for continuous production of the fruit due to intensive use of time magic. Nutrients/minerals are not being restored/resupplied on the land(Nitrogen Cycle), Sure it can be done with fertilizer but over application will result on a degraded product or simply lack of other nutrients needed for a proper/prime grapes to be harvested and used for production.
$endgroup$
– mico villena
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
@AlexP yes it is but the nutrients inside the soil is limited. By continuously harvesting grapes through time accelerations, land is degraded further and further due to high nutrients/minerals needed for continuous production of the fruit due to intensive use of time magic. Nutrients/minerals are not being restored/resupplied on the land(Nitrogen Cycle), Sure it can be done with fertilizer but over application will result on a degraded product or simply lack of other nutrients needed for a proper/prime grapes to be harvested and used for production.
$endgroup$
– mico villena
3 hours ago




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I would suggest you study wine making, wine selling, and vineyards a bit more because old wine is not always better and most wine is drank within 5 years of bottling - and there is a whole host of questions one would have to ask about PH balances and other soil conditions if we start "speeding up or slowing down" the vines themselves. (actually whiskey and other barrel aged drinks might bea better fit for this type of magic)
$endgroup$
– JGreenwell
3 hours ago






$begingroup$
I would suggest you study wine making, wine selling, and vineyards a bit more because old wine is not always better and most wine is drank within 5 years of bottling - and there is a whole host of questions one would have to ask about PH balances and other soil conditions if we start "speeding up or slowing down" the vines themselves. (actually whiskey and other barrel aged drinks might bea better fit for this type of magic)
$endgroup$
– JGreenwell
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This arrangement buys you one thing only: you're always first to market



Which isn't enough to guarantee wealth. Here's the deal:




  • Wine requires a nice grape - which has nothing to do with your magic.

  • Wine requires a nice environment - which has nothing to do with your magic.

  • Wine requires correct storage - which has nothing to do with your magic.

  • Wine requires time to ferment - this has to do with your magic.


In other words, you have all the same problems of every other oenologist, but you can speed up the fermentation process (age the wine more quickly from the perspective of the wizard's reference frame).



And that means you can get it to market faster. But you don't have any more of it and you still need everything else to make good wine and one you've sold your lot — you're done making money.



What about bank interest?



No, not really a solution to the problem. Yes, you're getting the money into the bank sooner, but that's a benefit for only the first deposit. Every deposit after that occurs exactly one year later because you still need to grow the grapes, etc. So, you make a couple of extra bucks on the fist deposit's interest, but that's it.



OK, but being first to market must count for something, doesn't it?



No, not really, because everybody else is out there still making wine. They may be taking the traditional route — but there's still their wine to be purchased. They could always release last-year's wine in competition with your wine this year.



So, how do I make an absolutely offensive amount of money with wine?




  1. Your magic multiplies the amount of wine you have so that you have more wine to sell.


  2. Your magic improves the quality of the wine so you can sell it for more than your competitors.







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    I see, but just a question, if i change the wine into brandy/whiskey instead will i be able to sell it more than my competitors since i can age it faster than anyone around? I mean i could theoretically age it to a century or a millennia
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    @micovillena, no. You have the same problem. You haven't changed the quality nor the quantity. All you can do is mature it faster. That might buy you something as thirsty footballers are happy to soak in whatever you can deliver - but once you're out of stock, you're out of stock. To think about it another way, you're manufacturing a widget in California and selling it in Texas. The only thing you've changed is the transport time between the two locations. You can't manufacture more or better than you already can, you just don't have to wait as long before you sell it.
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Making aged wine would be simpler than aged liquor.



Both wine and liquor can benefit from the ageing process. However, producing aged liquor (brandy, whiskey etc.) is technologically more complex and depends on the expertise of the distiller.



I recommend the following approach:




  1. After the harvest, when young wine starts to hit the market, buy
    samples of cheap wine from all around your region. The quality would
    be mostly mediocre, but each wine would age differently.

  2. Age all the samples for several years (wine time). Then open them up and invite a sommelier for a tasting session. Among your samples, some likely would be real hits.

  3. Proceed to buy all supplies of young wine that would turn
    into a "hit". Age the winners, present them at professional wine
    events, and prepare for a lot of orders.


You can do essentially the same for liquors, but the process would be more complicated.



P.S. In premium liquors, manufacturers strive not just for an exceptional taste, but for the stability of it, meaning that they want to produce essentially the same taste for the range of years. In wines, no two years are the same. Restaurants would go for a good no-name wine, but not for a no-name liquor (even if taste is great).



P.P.S. If we focus on the ancient world, then if you character happens to know how to distill wine, he's all set for brisk business. Liquor was invented only in medieval times.






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    $begingroup$

    This arrangement buys you one thing only: you're always first to market



    Which isn't enough to guarantee wealth. Here's the deal:




    • Wine requires a nice grape - which has nothing to do with your magic.

    • Wine requires a nice environment - which has nothing to do with your magic.

    • Wine requires correct storage - which has nothing to do with your magic.

    • Wine requires time to ferment - this has to do with your magic.


    In other words, you have all the same problems of every other oenologist, but you can speed up the fermentation process (age the wine more quickly from the perspective of the wizard's reference frame).



    And that means you can get it to market faster. But you don't have any more of it and you still need everything else to make good wine and one you've sold your lot — you're done making money.



    What about bank interest?



    No, not really a solution to the problem. Yes, you're getting the money into the bank sooner, but that's a benefit for only the first deposit. Every deposit after that occurs exactly one year later because you still need to grow the grapes, etc. So, you make a couple of extra bucks on the fist deposit's interest, but that's it.



    OK, but being first to market must count for something, doesn't it?



    No, not really, because everybody else is out there still making wine. They may be taking the traditional route — but there's still their wine to be purchased. They could always release last-year's wine in competition with your wine this year.



    So, how do I make an absolutely offensive amount of money with wine?




    1. Your magic multiplies the amount of wine you have so that you have more wine to sell.


    2. Your magic improves the quality of the wine so you can sell it for more than your competitors.







    share|improve this answer









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    • $begingroup$
      I see, but just a question, if i change the wine into brandy/whiskey instead will i be able to sell it more than my competitors since i can age it faster than anyone around? I mean i could theoretically age it to a century or a millennia
      $endgroup$
      – mico villena
      3 hours ago










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      @micovillena, no. You have the same problem. You haven't changed the quality nor the quantity. All you can do is mature it faster. That might buy you something as thirsty footballers are happy to soak in whatever you can deliver - but once you're out of stock, you're out of stock. To think about it another way, you're manufacturing a widget in California and selling it in Texas. The only thing you've changed is the transport time between the two locations. You can't manufacture more or better than you already can, you just don't have to wait as long before you sell it.
      $endgroup$
      – JBH
      3 hours ago


















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    $begingroup$

    This arrangement buys you one thing only: you're always first to market



    Which isn't enough to guarantee wealth. Here's the deal:




    • Wine requires a nice grape - which has nothing to do with your magic.

    • Wine requires a nice environment - which has nothing to do with your magic.

    • Wine requires correct storage - which has nothing to do with your magic.

    • Wine requires time to ferment - this has to do with your magic.


    In other words, you have all the same problems of every other oenologist, but you can speed up the fermentation process (age the wine more quickly from the perspective of the wizard's reference frame).



    And that means you can get it to market faster. But you don't have any more of it and you still need everything else to make good wine and one you've sold your lot — you're done making money.



    What about bank interest?



    No, not really a solution to the problem. Yes, you're getting the money into the bank sooner, but that's a benefit for only the first deposit. Every deposit after that occurs exactly one year later because you still need to grow the grapes, etc. So, you make a couple of extra bucks on the fist deposit's interest, but that's it.



    OK, but being first to market must count for something, doesn't it?



    No, not really, because everybody else is out there still making wine. They may be taking the traditional route — but there's still their wine to be purchased. They could always release last-year's wine in competition with your wine this year.



    So, how do I make an absolutely offensive amount of money with wine?




    1. Your magic multiplies the amount of wine you have so that you have more wine to sell.


    2. Your magic improves the quality of the wine so you can sell it for more than your competitors.







    share|improve this answer









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    • $begingroup$
      I see, but just a question, if i change the wine into brandy/whiskey instead will i be able to sell it more than my competitors since i can age it faster than anyone around? I mean i could theoretically age it to a century or a millennia
      $endgroup$
      – mico villena
      3 hours ago










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      @micovillena, no. You have the same problem. You haven't changed the quality nor the quantity. All you can do is mature it faster. That might buy you something as thirsty footballers are happy to soak in whatever you can deliver - but once you're out of stock, you're out of stock. To think about it another way, you're manufacturing a widget in California and selling it in Texas. The only thing you've changed is the transport time between the two locations. You can't manufacture more or better than you already can, you just don't have to wait as long before you sell it.
      $endgroup$
      – JBH
      3 hours ago
















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    $begingroup$

    This arrangement buys you one thing only: you're always first to market



    Which isn't enough to guarantee wealth. Here's the deal:




    • Wine requires a nice grape - which has nothing to do with your magic.

    • Wine requires a nice environment - which has nothing to do with your magic.

    • Wine requires correct storage - which has nothing to do with your magic.

    • Wine requires time to ferment - this has to do with your magic.


    In other words, you have all the same problems of every other oenologist, but you can speed up the fermentation process (age the wine more quickly from the perspective of the wizard's reference frame).



    And that means you can get it to market faster. But you don't have any more of it and you still need everything else to make good wine and one you've sold your lot — you're done making money.



    What about bank interest?



    No, not really a solution to the problem. Yes, you're getting the money into the bank sooner, but that's a benefit for only the first deposit. Every deposit after that occurs exactly one year later because you still need to grow the grapes, etc. So, you make a couple of extra bucks on the fist deposit's interest, but that's it.



    OK, but being first to market must count for something, doesn't it?



    No, not really, because everybody else is out there still making wine. They may be taking the traditional route — but there's still their wine to be purchased. They could always release last-year's wine in competition with your wine this year.



    So, how do I make an absolutely offensive amount of money with wine?




    1. Your magic multiplies the amount of wine you have so that you have more wine to sell.


    2. Your magic improves the quality of the wine so you can sell it for more than your competitors.







    share|improve this answer









    $endgroup$



    This arrangement buys you one thing only: you're always first to market



    Which isn't enough to guarantee wealth. Here's the deal:




    • Wine requires a nice grape - which has nothing to do with your magic.

    • Wine requires a nice environment - which has nothing to do with your magic.

    • Wine requires correct storage - which has nothing to do with your magic.

    • Wine requires time to ferment - this has to do with your magic.


    In other words, you have all the same problems of every other oenologist, but you can speed up the fermentation process (age the wine more quickly from the perspective of the wizard's reference frame).



    And that means you can get it to market faster. But you don't have any more of it and you still need everything else to make good wine and one you've sold your lot — you're done making money.



    What about bank interest?



    No, not really a solution to the problem. Yes, you're getting the money into the bank sooner, but that's a benefit for only the first deposit. Every deposit after that occurs exactly one year later because you still need to grow the grapes, etc. So, you make a couple of extra bucks on the fist deposit's interest, but that's it.



    OK, but being first to market must count for something, doesn't it?



    No, not really, because everybody else is out there still making wine. They may be taking the traditional route — but there's still their wine to be purchased. They could always release last-year's wine in competition with your wine this year.



    So, how do I make an absolutely offensive amount of money with wine?




    1. Your magic multiplies the amount of wine you have so that you have more wine to sell.


    2. Your magic improves the quality of the wine so you can sell it for more than your competitors.








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      I see, but just a question, if i change the wine into brandy/whiskey instead will i be able to sell it more than my competitors since i can age it faster than anyone around? I mean i could theoretically age it to a century or a millennia
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      – mico villena
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      @micovillena, no. You have the same problem. You haven't changed the quality nor the quantity. All you can do is mature it faster. That might buy you something as thirsty footballers are happy to soak in whatever you can deliver - but once you're out of stock, you're out of stock. To think about it another way, you're manufacturing a widget in California and selling it in Texas. The only thing you've changed is the transport time between the two locations. You can't manufacture more or better than you already can, you just don't have to wait as long before you sell it.
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      – JBH
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    • $begingroup$
      I see, but just a question, if i change the wine into brandy/whiskey instead will i be able to sell it more than my competitors since i can age it faster than anyone around? I mean i could theoretically age it to a century or a millennia
      $endgroup$
      – mico villena
      3 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      @micovillena, no. You have the same problem. You haven't changed the quality nor the quantity. All you can do is mature it faster. That might buy you something as thirsty footballers are happy to soak in whatever you can deliver - but once you're out of stock, you're out of stock. To think about it another way, you're manufacturing a widget in California and selling it in Texas. The only thing you've changed is the transport time between the two locations. You can't manufacture more or better than you already can, you just don't have to wait as long before you sell it.
      $endgroup$
      – JBH
      3 hours ago


















    $begingroup$
    I see, but just a question, if i change the wine into brandy/whiskey instead will i be able to sell it more than my competitors since i can age it faster than anyone around? I mean i could theoretically age it to a century or a millennia
    $endgroup$
    – mico villena
    3 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    I see, but just a question, if i change the wine into brandy/whiskey instead will i be able to sell it more than my competitors since i can age it faster than anyone around? I mean i could theoretically age it to a century or a millennia
    $endgroup$
    – mico villena
    3 hours ago












    $begingroup$
    @micovillena, no. You have the same problem. You haven't changed the quality nor the quantity. All you can do is mature it faster. That might buy you something as thirsty footballers are happy to soak in whatever you can deliver - but once you're out of stock, you're out of stock. To think about it another way, you're manufacturing a widget in California and selling it in Texas. The only thing you've changed is the transport time between the two locations. You can't manufacture more or better than you already can, you just don't have to wait as long before you sell it.
    $endgroup$
    – JBH
    3 hours ago






    $begingroup$
    @micovillena, no. You have the same problem. You haven't changed the quality nor the quantity. All you can do is mature it faster. That might buy you something as thirsty footballers are happy to soak in whatever you can deliver - but once you're out of stock, you're out of stock. To think about it another way, you're manufacturing a widget in California and selling it in Texas. The only thing you've changed is the transport time between the two locations. You can't manufacture more or better than you already can, you just don't have to wait as long before you sell it.
    $endgroup$
    – JBH
    3 hours ago













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    Making aged wine would be simpler than aged liquor.



    Both wine and liquor can benefit from the ageing process. However, producing aged liquor (brandy, whiskey etc.) is technologically more complex and depends on the expertise of the distiller.



    I recommend the following approach:




    1. After the harvest, when young wine starts to hit the market, buy
      samples of cheap wine from all around your region. The quality would
      be mostly mediocre, but each wine would age differently.

    2. Age all the samples for several years (wine time). Then open them up and invite a sommelier for a tasting session. Among your samples, some likely would be real hits.

    3. Proceed to buy all supplies of young wine that would turn
      into a "hit". Age the winners, present them at professional wine
      events, and prepare for a lot of orders.


    You can do essentially the same for liquors, but the process would be more complicated.



    P.S. In premium liquors, manufacturers strive not just for an exceptional taste, but for the stability of it, meaning that they want to produce essentially the same taste for the range of years. In wines, no two years are the same. Restaurants would go for a good no-name wine, but not for a no-name liquor (even if taste is great).



    P.P.S. If we focus on the ancient world, then if you character happens to know how to distill wine, he's all set for brisk business. Liquor was invented only in medieval times.






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      $begingroup$

      Making aged wine would be simpler than aged liquor.



      Both wine and liquor can benefit from the ageing process. However, producing aged liquor (brandy, whiskey etc.) is technologically more complex and depends on the expertise of the distiller.



      I recommend the following approach:




      1. After the harvest, when young wine starts to hit the market, buy
        samples of cheap wine from all around your region. The quality would
        be mostly mediocre, but each wine would age differently.

      2. Age all the samples for several years (wine time). Then open them up and invite a sommelier for a tasting session. Among your samples, some likely would be real hits.

      3. Proceed to buy all supplies of young wine that would turn
        into a "hit". Age the winners, present them at professional wine
        events, and prepare for a lot of orders.


      You can do essentially the same for liquors, but the process would be more complicated.



      P.S. In premium liquors, manufacturers strive not just for an exceptional taste, but for the stability of it, meaning that they want to produce essentially the same taste for the range of years. In wines, no two years are the same. Restaurants would go for a good no-name wine, but not for a no-name liquor (even if taste is great).



      P.P.S. If we focus on the ancient world, then if you character happens to know how to distill wine, he's all set for brisk business. Liquor was invented only in medieval times.






      share|improve this answer











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        $begingroup$

        Making aged wine would be simpler than aged liquor.



        Both wine and liquor can benefit from the ageing process. However, producing aged liquor (brandy, whiskey etc.) is technologically more complex and depends on the expertise of the distiller.



        I recommend the following approach:




        1. After the harvest, when young wine starts to hit the market, buy
          samples of cheap wine from all around your region. The quality would
          be mostly mediocre, but each wine would age differently.

        2. Age all the samples for several years (wine time). Then open them up and invite a sommelier for a tasting session. Among your samples, some likely would be real hits.

        3. Proceed to buy all supplies of young wine that would turn
          into a "hit". Age the winners, present them at professional wine
          events, and prepare for a lot of orders.


        You can do essentially the same for liquors, but the process would be more complicated.



        P.S. In premium liquors, manufacturers strive not just for an exceptional taste, but for the stability of it, meaning that they want to produce essentially the same taste for the range of years. In wines, no two years are the same. Restaurants would go for a good no-name wine, but not for a no-name liquor (even if taste is great).



        P.P.S. If we focus on the ancient world, then if you character happens to know how to distill wine, he's all set for brisk business. Liquor was invented only in medieval times.






        share|improve this answer











        $endgroup$



        Making aged wine would be simpler than aged liquor.



        Both wine and liquor can benefit from the ageing process. However, producing aged liquor (brandy, whiskey etc.) is technologically more complex and depends on the expertise of the distiller.



        I recommend the following approach:




        1. After the harvest, when young wine starts to hit the market, buy
          samples of cheap wine from all around your region. The quality would
          be mostly mediocre, but each wine would age differently.

        2. Age all the samples for several years (wine time). Then open them up and invite a sommelier for a tasting session. Among your samples, some likely would be real hits.

        3. Proceed to buy all supplies of young wine that would turn
          into a "hit". Age the winners, present them at professional wine
          events, and prepare for a lot of orders.


        You can do essentially the same for liquors, but the process would be more complicated.



        P.S. In premium liquors, manufacturers strive not just for an exceptional taste, but for the stability of it, meaning that they want to produce essentially the same taste for the range of years. In wines, no two years are the same. Restaurants would go for a good no-name wine, but not for a no-name liquor (even if taste is great).



        P.P.S. If we focus on the ancient world, then if you character happens to know how to distill wine, he's all set for brisk business. Liquor was invented only in medieval times.







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