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Could someone summarise the differences in the use of the langid field from language field in biblatex? Documentation to Gost package for bibtex says that langid is a synonym of language but has priority over it.










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  • The difference is explained in the answer to Can I use a shortened “language” entry (language code) in my .bib file? So while the titles do not suggest it, your question is pretty much a duplicate. Is there anything you are missing in the answer there?

    – moewe
    Aug 5 '16 at 6:31











  • Of course the meaning of langid in the BibTeX style for GOST has no bearing on the meaning of the field in biblatex. The biblatex-gost documentation does not mention anything about the langid field being different in meaning to standard biblatex.

    – moewe
    Aug 5 '16 at 6:45











  • Does the question linked above answer your question? I'm very much tempted to vote to close your question as a duplicate.

    – moewe
    Aug 6 '16 at 6:57











  • @moewe: I am still wondering what happens if both language and langid are provided or if only language or onlylangid are gived and they bear dofferent values.

    – Igor Kotelnikov
    Aug 6 '16 at 8:34











  • OK, I have tried to make this more explicit in my answer below, please comment if you have any more questions or if you can think of any improvement.

    – moewe
    Aug 6 '16 at 13:58
















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Could someone summarise the differences in the use of the langid field from language field in biblatex? Documentation to Gost package for bibtex says that langid is a synonym of language but has priority over it.










share|improve this question























  • The difference is explained in the answer to Can I use a shortened “language” entry (language code) in my .bib file? So while the titles do not suggest it, your question is pretty much a duplicate. Is there anything you are missing in the answer there?

    – moewe
    Aug 5 '16 at 6:31











  • Of course the meaning of langid in the BibTeX style for GOST has no bearing on the meaning of the field in biblatex. The biblatex-gost documentation does not mention anything about the langid field being different in meaning to standard biblatex.

    – moewe
    Aug 5 '16 at 6:45











  • Does the question linked above answer your question? I'm very much tempted to vote to close your question as a duplicate.

    – moewe
    Aug 6 '16 at 6:57











  • @moewe: I am still wondering what happens if both language and langid are provided or if only language or onlylangid are gived and they bear dofferent values.

    – Igor Kotelnikov
    Aug 6 '16 at 8:34











  • OK, I have tried to make this more explicit in my answer below, please comment if you have any more questions or if you can think of any improvement.

    – moewe
    Aug 6 '16 at 13:58














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Could someone summarise the differences in the use of the langid field from language field in biblatex? Documentation to Gost package for bibtex says that langid is a synonym of language but has priority over it.










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  • The difference is explained in the answer to Can I use a shortened “language” entry (language code) in my .bib file? So while the titles do not suggest it, your question is pretty much a duplicate. Is there anything you are missing in the answer there?

    – moewe
    Aug 5 '16 at 6:31











  • Of course the meaning of langid in the BibTeX style for GOST has no bearing on the meaning of the field in biblatex. The biblatex-gost documentation does not mention anything about the langid field being different in meaning to standard biblatex.

    – moewe
    Aug 5 '16 at 6:45











  • Does the question linked above answer your question? I'm very much tempted to vote to close your question as a duplicate.

    – moewe
    Aug 6 '16 at 6:57











  • @moewe: I am still wondering what happens if both language and langid are provided or if only language or onlylangid are gived and they bear dofferent values.

    – Igor Kotelnikov
    Aug 6 '16 at 8:34











  • OK, I have tried to make this more explicit in my answer below, please comment if you have any more questions or if you can think of any improvement.

    – moewe
    Aug 6 '16 at 13:58



















  • The difference is explained in the answer to Can I use a shortened “language” entry (language code) in my .bib file? So while the titles do not suggest it, your question is pretty much a duplicate. Is there anything you are missing in the answer there?

    – moewe
    Aug 5 '16 at 6:31











  • Of course the meaning of langid in the BibTeX style for GOST has no bearing on the meaning of the field in biblatex. The biblatex-gost documentation does not mention anything about the langid field being different in meaning to standard biblatex.

    – moewe
    Aug 5 '16 at 6:45











  • Does the question linked above answer your question? I'm very much tempted to vote to close your question as a duplicate.

    – moewe
    Aug 6 '16 at 6:57











  • @moewe: I am still wondering what happens if both language and langid are provided or if only language or onlylangid are gived and they bear dofferent values.

    – Igor Kotelnikov
    Aug 6 '16 at 8:34











  • OK, I have tried to make this more explicit in my answer below, please comment if you have any more questions or if you can think of any improvement.

    – moewe
    Aug 6 '16 at 13:58

















The difference is explained in the answer to Can I use a shortened “language” entry (language code) in my .bib file? So while the titles do not suggest it, your question is pretty much a duplicate. Is there anything you are missing in the answer there?

– moewe
Aug 5 '16 at 6:31





The difference is explained in the answer to Can I use a shortened “language” entry (language code) in my .bib file? So while the titles do not suggest it, your question is pretty much a duplicate. Is there anything you are missing in the answer there?

– moewe
Aug 5 '16 at 6:31













Of course the meaning of langid in the BibTeX style for GOST has no bearing on the meaning of the field in biblatex. The biblatex-gost documentation does not mention anything about the langid field being different in meaning to standard biblatex.

– moewe
Aug 5 '16 at 6:45





Of course the meaning of langid in the BibTeX style for GOST has no bearing on the meaning of the field in biblatex. The biblatex-gost documentation does not mention anything about the langid field being different in meaning to standard biblatex.

– moewe
Aug 5 '16 at 6:45













Does the question linked above answer your question? I'm very much tempted to vote to close your question as a duplicate.

– moewe
Aug 6 '16 at 6:57





Does the question linked above answer your question? I'm very much tempted to vote to close your question as a duplicate.

– moewe
Aug 6 '16 at 6:57













@moewe: I am still wondering what happens if both language and langid are provided or if only language or onlylangid are gived and they bear dofferent values.

– Igor Kotelnikov
Aug 6 '16 at 8:34





@moewe: I am still wondering what happens if both language and langid are provided or if only language or onlylangid are gived and they bear dofferent values.

– Igor Kotelnikov
Aug 6 '16 at 8:34













OK, I have tried to make this more explicit in my answer below, please comment if you have any more questions or if you can think of any improvement.

– moewe
Aug 6 '16 at 13:58





OK, I have tried to make this more explicit in my answer below, please comment if you have any more questions or if you can think of any improvement.

– moewe
Aug 6 '16 at 13:58










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We have touched upon this subject before in Can I use a shortened “language” entry (language code) in my .bib file?, but let's make the distinction a bit more specific here.



The biblatex documentation says (on pp. 25-26)




langid field (identifier): The language id of the bibliography entry.
The alias hyphenation is provided for backwards compatibility. The
identifier must be a language name known to the babel/polyglossia
packages. This information may be used to switch hyphenation patterns
and localise strings in the bibliography. Note that the language names
are case sensitive. The languages currently supported by this package
are given in table 2. [...]




and (p. 20)




language list (key): The language(s) of the work. Languages may be
specified literally or as localisation keys. If localisation keys are
used, the prefix lang is omissible.




That means that the langid field holds the localisation you want to use for the entry in the bibliography (and citation depending on your language option setting), it affects hyphenation patterns as well as localisation strings (the exact effect depends on the settings of the language and autolang options). Because this is an internal directive for biblatex the information must be given in a form that TeX understands, you can use babel/polyglossia language identifiers and with Biber even BCP47 language codes.



If you want to prepare a multi-language bibliography, it is recommended to provide langid for all entries. Only with that information can LaTeX properly switch language environments and possibly fonts and encodings to avoid errors or unwanted output.



The language list on the other hand has no special internal meaning, it just holds the language you want to see printed in the bibliography as the language of the work (in the standard styles the language is printed directly after the title, by default the option clearlang suppresses output of languages that match the document language). biblatex offers some localisation support for this ("known" languages are listed in §4.9.2.18 Language Names), so you can either give the language "key" (russian, langrussian) in which case biblatex will translate the field for you, or you can give the content verbatim in case the language is not supported (Klingon).



As far as biblatex is concerned the two fields are completely independent. They do not influence each other. And you can have only one of the two fields filled, or both, or none – and the contents of the field need not be equivalent. You can, for example, have



@online{elk,
author = {Anne Elk},
title = {A Theory on Brontosauruses},
url = {http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf},
date = {2016-01-01},
language = {french and latin},
langid = {ngerman},
}


Which tells biblatex (mistakenly) to treat the work as German (new orthography) (langid = {ngerman}), hyphenation and localisation strings will be changed accordingly (depending on your language and autolang options). However, since we have language={french and latin} "French and Latin" will be printed as the language(s) of the work. It would of course make no sense to give two languages as langid, but it may very well be that you want to convey the information that a work is bilingual French and Latin.



In



documentclass[ngerman,british]{article}
usepackage{babel}
usepackage{csquotes}
usepackage{filecontents}
begin{filecontents}{jobname.bib}
@online{elk,
author = {Anne Elk},
title = {A Theory on Brontosauruses},
url = {http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf},
date = {2016-01-01},
language = {french and latin},
langid = {ngerman},
}
end{filecontents}
usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear,autolang=other]{biblatex}
addbibresource{jobname.bib}

begin{document}
nocite{elk}
printbibliography
end{document}


we thus get




Elk, Anne (2016). A Theory on Brontosauruses. Französisch und Lateinisch. URL: http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf.




Note that even though the main language of the document is british, the information that the work is in French and Latin ("französisch und lateinisch", language={french and latin}) is printed in German (langid={ngerman}).






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We have touched upon this subject before in Can I use a shortened “language” entry (language code) in my .bib file?, but let's make the distinction a bit more specific here.



The biblatex documentation says (on pp. 25-26)




langid field (identifier): The language id of the bibliography entry.
The alias hyphenation is provided for backwards compatibility. The
identifier must be a language name known to the babel/polyglossia
packages. This information may be used to switch hyphenation patterns
and localise strings in the bibliography. Note that the language names
are case sensitive. The languages currently supported by this package
are given in table 2. [...]




and (p. 20)




language list (key): The language(s) of the work. Languages may be
specified literally or as localisation keys. If localisation keys are
used, the prefix lang is omissible.




That means that the langid field holds the localisation you want to use for the entry in the bibliography (and citation depending on your language option setting), it affects hyphenation patterns as well as localisation strings (the exact effect depends on the settings of the language and autolang options). Because this is an internal directive for biblatex the information must be given in a form that TeX understands, you can use babel/polyglossia language identifiers and with Biber even BCP47 language codes.



If you want to prepare a multi-language bibliography, it is recommended to provide langid for all entries. Only with that information can LaTeX properly switch language environments and possibly fonts and encodings to avoid errors or unwanted output.



The language list on the other hand has no special internal meaning, it just holds the language you want to see printed in the bibliography as the language of the work (in the standard styles the language is printed directly after the title, by default the option clearlang suppresses output of languages that match the document language). biblatex offers some localisation support for this ("known" languages are listed in §4.9.2.18 Language Names), so you can either give the language "key" (russian, langrussian) in which case biblatex will translate the field for you, or you can give the content verbatim in case the language is not supported (Klingon).



As far as biblatex is concerned the two fields are completely independent. They do not influence each other. And you can have only one of the two fields filled, or both, or none – and the contents of the field need not be equivalent. You can, for example, have



@online{elk,
author = {Anne Elk},
title = {A Theory on Brontosauruses},
url = {http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf},
date = {2016-01-01},
language = {french and latin},
langid = {ngerman},
}


Which tells biblatex (mistakenly) to treat the work as German (new orthography) (langid = {ngerman}), hyphenation and localisation strings will be changed accordingly (depending on your language and autolang options). However, since we have language={french and latin} "French and Latin" will be printed as the language(s) of the work. It would of course make no sense to give two languages as langid, but it may very well be that you want to convey the information that a work is bilingual French and Latin.



In



documentclass[ngerman,british]{article}
usepackage{babel}
usepackage{csquotes}
usepackage{filecontents}
begin{filecontents}{jobname.bib}
@online{elk,
author = {Anne Elk},
title = {A Theory on Brontosauruses},
url = {http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf},
date = {2016-01-01},
language = {french and latin},
langid = {ngerman},
}
end{filecontents}
usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear,autolang=other]{biblatex}
addbibresource{jobname.bib}

begin{document}
nocite{elk}
printbibliography
end{document}


we thus get




Elk, Anne (2016). A Theory on Brontosauruses. Französisch und Lateinisch. URL: http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf.




Note that even though the main language of the document is british, the information that the work is in French and Latin ("französisch und lateinisch", language={french and latin}) is printed in German (langid={ngerman}).






share|improve this answer


























  • In multilanguage bibliographies the absence of langid in entries can produce LaTeX Error: Command ... unavailable in encoding T1.

    – homocomputeris
    Oct 17 '18 at 19:48


















6














We have touched upon this subject before in Can I use a shortened “language” entry (language code) in my .bib file?, but let's make the distinction a bit more specific here.



The biblatex documentation says (on pp. 25-26)




langid field (identifier): The language id of the bibliography entry.
The alias hyphenation is provided for backwards compatibility. The
identifier must be a language name known to the babel/polyglossia
packages. This information may be used to switch hyphenation patterns
and localise strings in the bibliography. Note that the language names
are case sensitive. The languages currently supported by this package
are given in table 2. [...]




and (p. 20)




language list (key): The language(s) of the work. Languages may be
specified literally or as localisation keys. If localisation keys are
used, the prefix lang is omissible.




That means that the langid field holds the localisation you want to use for the entry in the bibliography (and citation depending on your language option setting), it affects hyphenation patterns as well as localisation strings (the exact effect depends on the settings of the language and autolang options). Because this is an internal directive for biblatex the information must be given in a form that TeX understands, you can use babel/polyglossia language identifiers and with Biber even BCP47 language codes.



If you want to prepare a multi-language bibliography, it is recommended to provide langid for all entries. Only with that information can LaTeX properly switch language environments and possibly fonts and encodings to avoid errors or unwanted output.



The language list on the other hand has no special internal meaning, it just holds the language you want to see printed in the bibliography as the language of the work (in the standard styles the language is printed directly after the title, by default the option clearlang suppresses output of languages that match the document language). biblatex offers some localisation support for this ("known" languages are listed in §4.9.2.18 Language Names), so you can either give the language "key" (russian, langrussian) in which case biblatex will translate the field for you, or you can give the content verbatim in case the language is not supported (Klingon).



As far as biblatex is concerned the two fields are completely independent. They do not influence each other. And you can have only one of the two fields filled, or both, or none – and the contents of the field need not be equivalent. You can, for example, have



@online{elk,
author = {Anne Elk},
title = {A Theory on Brontosauruses},
url = {http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf},
date = {2016-01-01},
language = {french and latin},
langid = {ngerman},
}


Which tells biblatex (mistakenly) to treat the work as German (new orthography) (langid = {ngerman}), hyphenation and localisation strings will be changed accordingly (depending on your language and autolang options). However, since we have language={french and latin} "French and Latin" will be printed as the language(s) of the work. It would of course make no sense to give two languages as langid, but it may very well be that you want to convey the information that a work is bilingual French and Latin.



In



documentclass[ngerman,british]{article}
usepackage{babel}
usepackage{csquotes}
usepackage{filecontents}
begin{filecontents}{jobname.bib}
@online{elk,
author = {Anne Elk},
title = {A Theory on Brontosauruses},
url = {http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf},
date = {2016-01-01},
language = {french and latin},
langid = {ngerman},
}
end{filecontents}
usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear,autolang=other]{biblatex}
addbibresource{jobname.bib}

begin{document}
nocite{elk}
printbibliography
end{document}


we thus get




Elk, Anne (2016). A Theory on Brontosauruses. Französisch und Lateinisch. URL: http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf.




Note that even though the main language of the document is british, the information that the work is in French and Latin ("französisch und lateinisch", language={french and latin}) is printed in German (langid={ngerman}).






share|improve this answer


























  • In multilanguage bibliographies the absence of langid in entries can produce LaTeX Error: Command ... unavailable in encoding T1.

    – homocomputeris
    Oct 17 '18 at 19:48
















6












6








6







We have touched upon this subject before in Can I use a shortened “language” entry (language code) in my .bib file?, but let's make the distinction a bit more specific here.



The biblatex documentation says (on pp. 25-26)




langid field (identifier): The language id of the bibliography entry.
The alias hyphenation is provided for backwards compatibility. The
identifier must be a language name known to the babel/polyglossia
packages. This information may be used to switch hyphenation patterns
and localise strings in the bibliography. Note that the language names
are case sensitive. The languages currently supported by this package
are given in table 2. [...]




and (p. 20)




language list (key): The language(s) of the work. Languages may be
specified literally or as localisation keys. If localisation keys are
used, the prefix lang is omissible.




That means that the langid field holds the localisation you want to use for the entry in the bibliography (and citation depending on your language option setting), it affects hyphenation patterns as well as localisation strings (the exact effect depends on the settings of the language and autolang options). Because this is an internal directive for biblatex the information must be given in a form that TeX understands, you can use babel/polyglossia language identifiers and with Biber even BCP47 language codes.



If you want to prepare a multi-language bibliography, it is recommended to provide langid for all entries. Only with that information can LaTeX properly switch language environments and possibly fonts and encodings to avoid errors or unwanted output.



The language list on the other hand has no special internal meaning, it just holds the language you want to see printed in the bibliography as the language of the work (in the standard styles the language is printed directly after the title, by default the option clearlang suppresses output of languages that match the document language). biblatex offers some localisation support for this ("known" languages are listed in §4.9.2.18 Language Names), so you can either give the language "key" (russian, langrussian) in which case biblatex will translate the field for you, or you can give the content verbatim in case the language is not supported (Klingon).



As far as biblatex is concerned the two fields are completely independent. They do not influence each other. And you can have only one of the two fields filled, or both, or none – and the contents of the field need not be equivalent. You can, for example, have



@online{elk,
author = {Anne Elk},
title = {A Theory on Brontosauruses},
url = {http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf},
date = {2016-01-01},
language = {french and latin},
langid = {ngerman},
}


Which tells biblatex (mistakenly) to treat the work as German (new orthography) (langid = {ngerman}), hyphenation and localisation strings will be changed accordingly (depending on your language and autolang options). However, since we have language={french and latin} "French and Latin" will be printed as the language(s) of the work. It would of course make no sense to give two languages as langid, but it may very well be that you want to convey the information that a work is bilingual French and Latin.



In



documentclass[ngerman,british]{article}
usepackage{babel}
usepackage{csquotes}
usepackage{filecontents}
begin{filecontents}{jobname.bib}
@online{elk,
author = {Anne Elk},
title = {A Theory on Brontosauruses},
url = {http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf},
date = {2016-01-01},
language = {french and latin},
langid = {ngerman},
}
end{filecontents}
usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear,autolang=other]{biblatex}
addbibresource{jobname.bib}

begin{document}
nocite{elk}
printbibliography
end{document}


we thus get




Elk, Anne (2016). A Theory on Brontosauruses. Französisch und Lateinisch. URL: http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf.




Note that even though the main language of the document is british, the information that the work is in French and Latin ("französisch und lateinisch", language={french and latin}) is printed in German (langid={ngerman}).






share|improve this answer















We have touched upon this subject before in Can I use a shortened “language” entry (language code) in my .bib file?, but let's make the distinction a bit more specific here.



The biblatex documentation says (on pp. 25-26)




langid field (identifier): The language id of the bibliography entry.
The alias hyphenation is provided for backwards compatibility. The
identifier must be a language name known to the babel/polyglossia
packages. This information may be used to switch hyphenation patterns
and localise strings in the bibliography. Note that the language names
are case sensitive. The languages currently supported by this package
are given in table 2. [...]




and (p. 20)




language list (key): The language(s) of the work. Languages may be
specified literally or as localisation keys. If localisation keys are
used, the prefix lang is omissible.




That means that the langid field holds the localisation you want to use for the entry in the bibliography (and citation depending on your language option setting), it affects hyphenation patterns as well as localisation strings (the exact effect depends on the settings of the language and autolang options). Because this is an internal directive for biblatex the information must be given in a form that TeX understands, you can use babel/polyglossia language identifiers and with Biber even BCP47 language codes.



If you want to prepare a multi-language bibliography, it is recommended to provide langid for all entries. Only with that information can LaTeX properly switch language environments and possibly fonts and encodings to avoid errors or unwanted output.



The language list on the other hand has no special internal meaning, it just holds the language you want to see printed in the bibliography as the language of the work (in the standard styles the language is printed directly after the title, by default the option clearlang suppresses output of languages that match the document language). biblatex offers some localisation support for this ("known" languages are listed in §4.9.2.18 Language Names), so you can either give the language "key" (russian, langrussian) in which case biblatex will translate the field for you, or you can give the content verbatim in case the language is not supported (Klingon).



As far as biblatex is concerned the two fields are completely independent. They do not influence each other. And you can have only one of the two fields filled, or both, or none – and the contents of the field need not be equivalent. You can, for example, have



@online{elk,
author = {Anne Elk},
title = {A Theory on Brontosauruses},
url = {http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf},
date = {2016-01-01},
language = {french and latin},
langid = {ngerman},
}


Which tells biblatex (mistakenly) to treat the work as German (new orthography) (langid = {ngerman}), hyphenation and localisation strings will be changed accordingly (depending on your language and autolang options). However, since we have language={french and latin} "French and Latin" will be printed as the language(s) of the work. It would of course make no sense to give two languages as langid, but it may very well be that you want to convey the information that a work is bilingual French and Latin.



In



documentclass[ngerman,british]{article}
usepackage{babel}
usepackage{csquotes}
usepackage{filecontents}
begin{filecontents}{jobname.bib}
@online{elk,
author = {Anne Elk},
title = {A Theory on Brontosauruses},
url = {http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf},
date = {2016-01-01},
language = {french and latin},
langid = {ngerman},
}
end{filecontents}
usepackage[backend=biber,style=authoryear,autolang=other]{biblatex}
addbibresource{jobname.bib}

begin{document}
nocite{elk}
printbibliography
end{document}


we thus get




Elk, Anne (2016). A Theory on Brontosauruses. Französisch und Lateinisch. URL: http://www.example.edu/~elk/bronto.pdf.




Note that even though the main language of the document is british, the information that the work is in French and Latin ("französisch und lateinisch", language={french and latin}) is printed in German (langid={ngerman}).







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  • In multilanguage bibliographies the absence of langid in entries can produce LaTeX Error: Command ... unavailable in encoding T1.

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  • In multilanguage bibliographies the absence of langid in entries can produce LaTeX Error: Command ... unavailable in encoding T1.

    – homocomputeris
    Oct 17 '18 at 19:48



















In multilanguage bibliographies the absence of langid in entries can produce LaTeX Error: Command ... unavailable in encoding T1.

– homocomputeris
Oct 17 '18 at 19:48







In multilanguage bibliographies the absence of langid in entries can produce LaTeX Error: Command ... unavailable in encoding T1.

– homocomputeris
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