Can't plot DSolve's solution to Riccati differential equation












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DSolve gives a strange solution for the Riccati differential equation $ y' = (y^2) - 2 x^2 y + (x^4) + 2 x + 4 $



Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2*y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x]


$left{left{y(x)to frac{1}{c_1 e^{4 i x}-frac{i}{4}}+x^2-2 iright}right}$



When I try plot this solution



Opresgraf = 
Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3]], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]


I get a blank graph.



My question is: how can I get a solution with DSolve (not with NDSolve, because in my student research project I need DSolve) and plot that solution, the most important is to plot that general solution with DSolve.










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    You can't plot a complex expression. You need to either plot its real value, its imaginary value or its modulus. Also you have a typo in the input, you need y[x] not y in the ODE itself.
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    Is Range[-3.3] supposed to be Range[-3,3]?
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DSolve gives a strange solution for the Riccati differential equation $ y' = (y^2) - 2 x^2 y + (x^4) + 2 x + 4 $



Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2*y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x]


$left{left{y(x)to frac{1}{c_1 e^{4 i x}-frac{i}{4}}+x^2-2 iright}right}$



When I try plot this solution



Opresgraf = 
Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3]], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]


I get a blank graph.



My question is: how can I get a solution with DSolve (not with NDSolve, because in my student research project I need DSolve) and plot that solution, the most important is to plot that general solution with DSolve.










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    You can't plot a complex expression. You need to either plot its real value, its imaginary value or its modulus. Also you have a typo in the input, you need y[x] not y in the ODE itself.
    $endgroup$
    – Nasser
    Nov 27 '18 at 18:24






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    Is Range[-3.3] supposed to be Range[-3,3]?
    $endgroup$
    – That Gravity Guy
    Nov 27 '18 at 18:26














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DSolve gives a strange solution for the Riccati differential equation $ y' = (y^2) - 2 x^2 y + (x^4) + 2 x + 4 $



Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2*y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x]


$left{left{y(x)to frac{1}{c_1 e^{4 i x}-frac{i}{4}}+x^2-2 iright}right}$



When I try plot this solution



Opresgraf = 
Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3]], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]


I get a blank graph.



My question is: how can I get a solution with DSolve (not with NDSolve, because in my student research project I need DSolve) and plot that solution, the most important is to plot that general solution with DSolve.










share|improve this question











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DSolve gives a strange solution for the Riccati differential equation $ y' = (y^2) - 2 x^2 y + (x^4) + 2 x + 4 $



Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2*y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x]


$left{left{y(x)to frac{1}{c_1 e^{4 i x}-frac{i}{4}}+x^2-2 iright}right}$



When I try plot this solution



Opresgraf = 
Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3]], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]


I get a blank graph.



My question is: how can I get a solution with DSolve (not with NDSolve, because in my student research project I need DSolve) and plot that solution, the most important is to plot that general solution with DSolve.







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    You can't plot a complex expression. You need to either plot its real value, its imaginary value or its modulus. Also you have a typo in the input, you need y[x] not y in the ODE itself.
    $endgroup$
    – Nasser
    Nov 27 '18 at 18:24






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    $begingroup$
    Is Range[-3.3] supposed to be Range[-3,3]?
    $endgroup$
    – That Gravity Guy
    Nov 27 '18 at 18:26














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    $begingroup$
    You can't plot a complex expression. You need to either plot its real value, its imaginary value or its modulus. Also you have a typo in the input, you need y[x] not y in the ODE itself.
    $endgroup$
    – Nasser
    Nov 27 '18 at 18:24






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    $begingroup$
    Is Range[-3.3] supposed to be Range[-3,3]?
    $endgroup$
    – That Gravity Guy
    Nov 27 '18 at 18:26








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You can't plot a complex expression. You need to either plot its real value, its imaginary value or its modulus. Also you have a typo in the input, you need y[x] not y in the ODE itself.
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– Nasser
Nov 27 '18 at 18:24




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You can't plot a complex expression. You need to either plot its real value, its imaginary value or its modulus. Also you have a typo in the input, you need y[x] not y in the ODE itself.
$endgroup$
– Nasser
Nov 27 '18 at 18:24




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Is Range[-3.3] supposed to be Range[-3,3]?
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perhaps



Plot[Evaluate[ReIm@y[x] /. (Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3])], {x, -4.7, 4.7}, 
PlotRange -> 4.7]


enter image description here






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    But is the solution of d.e only real , will y[x]-> Complex even be solution of d.e and what will be Derivate of that y[x] complex ?
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With a single graph you can only plot those solution that are imaginary or real.



There are 2 real ones:



sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
zeroIm = FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol]]] == 0 // Solve[#, C[1]] &



$style{text-decoration:line-through}{left{left{C[1]to -frac{1}{4}right},left{C[1]to frac{1}{4}right}right}}$




I forgot to consider complex values of C[1]:



sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
zeroIm = Numerator[FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol], C[1]]]] == 0

(* -2 + 32 Abs[C[1]]^2 == 0 *)


which is the equation of a circle of real solutions:



Manipulate[Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])],
{x, -4.7, 4.7}, Exclusions -> All], {t, 0, 2 π}]




Code for GIF-animation:



n = 70;
pics = Table[Rasterize[#, "Image"] & @ Plot[
Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> {{-4.7, 4.7}, {-30, 46}}, ImageSize -> {500, 300}, AspectRatio -> Full,
PlotRangePadding -> None, PlotRangeClipping -> True,
ClippingStyle -> False], {t, 0, 2 π - #, #}] &[2 π/n];
Export["asd.gif", pics, "AnimationRepetitions" -> ∞,
"ColorMapLength" -> 16, "DisplayDurations" -> ConstantArray[0.04, n]]





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    With what function you get that last graph ?
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    Dec 2 '18 at 1:46










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    @МилошВучковић I haven't saved it but I have added something similar except for adding the text row to the images.
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Try this



Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2 *y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x][[1]];
Plot[{Re[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]],Im[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]]}, {x,-4.7,4.7}]





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    The general solution is not real valued. Try setting an initial condition:



    FullSimplify[
    DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 1},
    y[x], x]
    ]


    yielding



    {{y[x] -> -2 I + (4 + 8 I)/((2 - I) + (2 + I) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}


    which is not real valued (almost everywhere). However, for a different initial condition



    FullSimplify[
    DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 0},
    y[x], x]
    ]

    {{y[x] -> x^2 + 2 Tan[2 x]}}


    the solution is real valued.



    We can use a symbolic initial condition



    FullSimplify[
    DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == c},
    y[x], x]
    ]

    {{y[x] -> -2 I + (8 - 4 I c)/(-2 I - c + (-2 I + c) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}


    and see that this complex valued behaviour is generic, but can be hidden with particular choices of the initial condition, c. Note that we can give the initial condition at a different value of the independent variable, and get different behaviour altogether. In fact, providing an initial condition at x=1 gives a real valued generic solution.



    FullSimplify[
    DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[1] == c},
    y[x], x]
    ]

    {{ y[x] -> ( 2 (-1 + c + x^2) Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-4 + (-1 + c) x^2) Sin[2 - 2 x] )/
    ( 2 Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-1 + c) Sin[2 - 2 x] ) }}

    Plot[Table[y[x] /. %[[1]], {c, -2, 2}], {x, -2, 2}]


    Plot of several particular solutions.





    Starting over in full generality, we can get an unintelligible plot.



    genSol = FullSimplify[ ComplexExpand[
    y[x] /. DSolve[{
    y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4,
    y[d] == c},
    y[x], x][[1]]
    ]];
    Plot[Flatten[
    Table[genSol, {c, -20, 20, 10}, {d, -2, 2, 1}
    ], 1], {x, -4, 4}]


    Much too busy plot



    Here we have applied the generic initial condition $y(d) = c$ (via y[d] == c) so that we have labels for the parts of a point of a particular solution. Since we only want real solutions, we want $c$, $d$, and $x$ to be real. Applying ComplexExpand treats all the variables as if they are real, yielding real solutions passing through the point $(c,d)$. (The largest effect here is that the complex exponentials are rewritten in terms of sine and cosine.)






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      And is this on the end "REAL" GENERAL SOLUTION which will include all reals solution that that General solution ?
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      No. As explained, setting different y[d]==c will produce different solutions. The last one has d fixed at 1. Varying both c and d at once will produce all the real solutions and also yield an unintelligible graph. I'll add more about this.
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      Wait, you took for c , -20,-10,0,10,20 and for d -2,-1,0,1,2 ? And for that how we know fore sure that will be for all that c and d reals solutions and what we get with this ? It's just many real solutions, but still not all real solutions--> General Solutions ?
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      @МилошВучковић : Every real solution passes through at least one real point of the plane. Consequently, varying c and d through every real point of the plane will produce every solution (with infinitely many repetitions since every point on any particular solution is one of the initial conditions). Have you looked at genSol in the addendum? That's as general a solution as you're going to get but it is not what you asked for in your question.
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      @МилошВучковић : The last picture is a smpling of real solutions. A graph of all real solutions is a solid plane since every point is a point on a particular solution.
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    perhaps



    Plot[Evaluate[ReIm@y[x] /. (Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3])], {x, -4.7, 4.7}, 
    PlotRange -> 4.7]


    enter image description here






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      But is the solution of d.e only real , will y[x]-> Complex even be solution of d.e and what will be Derivate of that y[x] complex ?
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    perhaps



    Plot[Evaluate[ReIm@y[x] /. (Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3])], {x, -4.7, 4.7}, 
    PlotRange -> 4.7]


    enter image description here






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      But is the solution of d.e only real , will y[x]-> Complex even be solution of d.e and what will be Derivate of that y[x] complex ?
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      – Милош Вучковић
      Dec 2 '18 at 0:18














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    perhaps



    Plot[Evaluate[ReIm@y[x] /. (Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3])], {x, -4.7, 4.7}, 
    PlotRange -> 4.7]


    enter image description here






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    perhaps



    Plot[Evaluate[ReIm@y[x] /. (Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3])], {x, -4.7, 4.7}, 
    PlotRange -> 4.7]


    enter image description here







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      But is the solution of d.e only real , will y[x]-> Complex even be solution of d.e and what will be Derivate of that y[x] complex ?
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      – Милош Вучковић
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      But is the solution of d.e only real , will y[x]-> Complex even be solution of d.e and what will be Derivate of that y[x] complex ?
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    But is the solution of d.e only real , will y[x]-> Complex even be solution of d.e and what will be Derivate of that y[x] complex ?
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    – Милош Вучковић
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    $begingroup$
    But is the solution of d.e only real , will y[x]-> Complex even be solution of d.e and what will be Derivate of that y[x] complex ?
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    – Милош Вучковић
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    With a single graph you can only plot those solution that are imaginary or real.



    There are 2 real ones:



    sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
    zeroIm = FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol]]] == 0 // Solve[#, C[1]] &



    $style{text-decoration:line-through}{left{left{C[1]to -frac{1}{4}right},left{C[1]to frac{1}{4}right}right}}$




    I forgot to consider complex values of C[1]:



    sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
    zeroIm = Numerator[FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol], C[1]]]] == 0

    (* -2 + 32 Abs[C[1]]^2 == 0 *)


    which is the equation of a circle of real solutions:



    Manipulate[Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])],
    {x, -4.7, 4.7}, Exclusions -> All], {t, 0, 2 π}]




    Code for GIF-animation:



    n = 70;
    pics = Table[Rasterize[#, "Image"] & @ Plot[
    Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
    PlotRange -> {{-4.7, 4.7}, {-30, 46}}, ImageSize -> {500, 300}, AspectRatio -> Full,
    PlotRangePadding -> None, PlotRangeClipping -> True,
    ClippingStyle -> False], {t, 0, 2 π - #, #}] &[2 π/n];
    Export["asd.gif", pics, "AnimationRepetitions" -> ∞,
    "ColorMapLength" -> 16, "DisplayDurations" -> ConstantArray[0.04, n]]





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      With what function you get that last graph ?
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      Dec 2 '18 at 1:46










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      @МилошВучковић I haven't saved it but I have added something similar except for adding the text row to the images.
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      Dec 3 '18 at 11:04


















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    With a single graph you can only plot those solution that are imaginary or real.



    There are 2 real ones:



    sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
    zeroIm = FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol]]] == 0 // Solve[#, C[1]] &



    $style{text-decoration:line-through}{left{left{C[1]to -frac{1}{4}right},left{C[1]to frac{1}{4}right}right}}$




    I forgot to consider complex values of C[1]:



    sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
    zeroIm = Numerator[FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol], C[1]]]] == 0

    (* -2 + 32 Abs[C[1]]^2 == 0 *)


    which is the equation of a circle of real solutions:



    Manipulate[Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])],
    {x, -4.7, 4.7}, Exclusions -> All], {t, 0, 2 π}]




    Code for GIF-animation:



    n = 70;
    pics = Table[Rasterize[#, "Image"] & @ Plot[
    Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
    PlotRange -> {{-4.7, 4.7}, {-30, 46}}, ImageSize -> {500, 300}, AspectRatio -> Full,
    PlotRangePadding -> None, PlotRangeClipping -> True,
    ClippingStyle -> False], {t, 0, 2 π - #, #}] &[2 π/n];
    Export["asd.gif", pics, "AnimationRepetitions" -> ∞,
    "ColorMapLength" -> 16, "DisplayDurations" -> ConstantArray[0.04, n]]





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      With what function you get that last graph ?
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      – Милош Вучковић
      Dec 2 '18 at 1:46










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      @МилошВучковић I haven't saved it but I have added something similar except for adding the text row to the images.
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      – Coolwater
      Dec 3 '18 at 11:04
















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    With a single graph you can only plot those solution that are imaginary or real.



    There are 2 real ones:



    sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
    zeroIm = FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol]]] == 0 // Solve[#, C[1]] &



    $style{text-decoration:line-through}{left{left{C[1]to -frac{1}{4}right},left{C[1]to frac{1}{4}right}right}}$




    I forgot to consider complex values of C[1]:



    sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
    zeroIm = Numerator[FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol], C[1]]]] == 0

    (* -2 + 32 Abs[C[1]]^2 == 0 *)


    which is the equation of a circle of real solutions:



    Manipulate[Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])],
    {x, -4.7, 4.7}, Exclusions -> All], {t, 0, 2 π}]




    Code for GIF-animation:



    n = 70;
    pics = Table[Rasterize[#, "Image"] & @ Plot[
    Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
    PlotRange -> {{-4.7, 4.7}, {-30, 46}}, ImageSize -> {500, 300}, AspectRatio -> Full,
    PlotRangePadding -> None, PlotRangeClipping -> True,
    ClippingStyle -> False], {t, 0, 2 π - #, #}] &[2 π/n];
    Export["asd.gif", pics, "AnimationRepetitions" -> ∞,
    "ColorMapLength" -> 16, "DisplayDurations" -> ConstantArray[0.04, n]]





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    $endgroup$



    With a single graph you can only plot those solution that are imaginary or real.



    There are 2 real ones:



    sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
    zeroIm = FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol]]] == 0 // Solve[#, C[1]] &



    $style{text-decoration:line-through}{left{left{C[1]to -frac{1}{4}right},left{C[1]to frac{1}{4}right}right}}$




    I forgot to consider complex values of C[1]:



    sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
    zeroIm = Numerator[FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol], C[1]]]] == 0

    (* -2 + 32 Abs[C[1]]^2 == 0 *)


    which is the equation of a circle of real solutions:



    Manipulate[Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])],
    {x, -4.7, 4.7}, Exclusions -> All], {t, 0, 2 π}]




    Code for GIF-animation:



    n = 70;
    pics = Table[Rasterize[#, "Image"] & @ Plot[
    Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
    PlotRange -> {{-4.7, 4.7}, {-30, 46}}, ImageSize -> {500, 300}, AspectRatio -> Full,
    PlotRangePadding -> None, PlotRangeClipping -> True,
    ClippingStyle -> False], {t, 0, 2 π - #, #}] &[2 π/n];
    Export["asd.gif", pics, "AnimationRepetitions" -> ∞,
    "ColorMapLength" -> 16, "DisplayDurations" -> ConstantArray[0.04, n]]






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    edited Dec 3 '18 at 11:03

























    answered Nov 27 '18 at 18:33









    CoolwaterCoolwater

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    • $begingroup$
      With what function you get that last graph ?
      $endgroup$
      – Милош Вучковић
      Dec 2 '18 at 1:46










    • $begingroup$
      @МилошВучковић I haven't saved it but I have added something similar except for adding the text row to the images.
      $endgroup$
      – Coolwater
      Dec 3 '18 at 11:04




















    • $begingroup$
      With what function you get that last graph ?
      $endgroup$
      – Милош Вучковић
      Dec 2 '18 at 1:46










    • $begingroup$
      @МилошВучковић I haven't saved it but I have added something similar except for adding the text row to the images.
      $endgroup$
      – Coolwater
      Dec 3 '18 at 11:04


















    $begingroup$
    With what function you get that last graph ?
    $endgroup$
    – Милош Вучковић
    Dec 2 '18 at 1:46




    $begingroup$
    With what function you get that last graph ?
    $endgroup$
    – Милош Вучковић
    Dec 2 '18 at 1:46












    $begingroup$
    @МилошВучковић I haven't saved it but I have added something similar except for adding the text row to the images.
    $endgroup$
    – Coolwater
    Dec 3 '18 at 11:04






    $begingroup$
    @МилошВучковић I haven't saved it but I have added something similar except for adding the text row to the images.
    $endgroup$
    – Coolwater
    Dec 3 '18 at 11:04













    3












    $begingroup$

    Try this



    Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2 *y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x][[1]];
    Plot[{Re[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]],Im[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]]}, {x,-4.7,4.7}]





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    $endgroup$


















      3












      $begingroup$

      Try this



      Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2 *y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x][[1]];
      Plot[{Re[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]],Im[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]]}, {x,-4.7,4.7}]





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        3












        3








        3





        $begingroup$

        Try this



        Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2 *y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x][[1]];
        Plot[{Re[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]],Im[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]]}, {x,-4.7,4.7}]





        share|improve this answer









        $endgroup$



        Try this



        Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2 *y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x][[1]];
        Plot[{Re[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]],Im[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]]}, {x,-4.7,4.7}]






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        answered Nov 27 '18 at 18:24









        BillBill

        5,76069




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            1












            $begingroup$

            The general solution is not real valued. Try setting an initial condition:



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 1},
            y[x], x]
            ]


            yielding



            {{y[x] -> -2 I + (4 + 8 I)/((2 - I) + (2 + I) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}


            which is not real valued (almost everywhere). However, for a different initial condition



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 0},
            y[x], x]
            ]

            {{y[x] -> x^2 + 2 Tan[2 x]}}


            the solution is real valued.



            We can use a symbolic initial condition



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == c},
            y[x], x]
            ]

            {{y[x] -> -2 I + (8 - 4 I c)/(-2 I - c + (-2 I + c) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}


            and see that this complex valued behaviour is generic, but can be hidden with particular choices of the initial condition, c. Note that we can give the initial condition at a different value of the independent variable, and get different behaviour altogether. In fact, providing an initial condition at x=1 gives a real valued generic solution.



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[1] == c},
            y[x], x]
            ]

            {{ y[x] -> ( 2 (-1 + c + x^2) Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-4 + (-1 + c) x^2) Sin[2 - 2 x] )/
            ( 2 Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-1 + c) Sin[2 - 2 x] ) }}

            Plot[Table[y[x] /. %[[1]], {c, -2, 2}], {x, -2, 2}]


            Plot of several particular solutions.





            Starting over in full generality, we can get an unintelligible plot.



            genSol = FullSimplify[ ComplexExpand[
            y[x] /. DSolve[{
            y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4,
            y[d] == c},
            y[x], x][[1]]
            ]];
            Plot[Flatten[
            Table[genSol, {c, -20, 20, 10}, {d, -2, 2, 1}
            ], 1], {x, -4, 4}]


            Much too busy plot



            Here we have applied the generic initial condition $y(d) = c$ (via y[d] == c) so that we have labels for the parts of a point of a particular solution. Since we only want real solutions, we want $c$, $d$, and $x$ to be real. Applying ComplexExpand treats all the variables as if they are real, yielding real solutions passing through the point $(c,d)$. (The largest effect here is that the complex exponentials are rewritten in terms of sine and cosine.)






            share|improve this answer











            $endgroup$













            • $begingroup$
              And is this on the end "REAL" GENERAL SOLUTION which will include all reals solution that that General solution ?
              $endgroup$
              – Милош Вучковић
              Dec 11 '18 at 6:10










            • $begingroup$
              No. As explained, setting different y[d]==c will produce different solutions. The last one has d fixed at 1. Varying both c and d at once will produce all the real solutions and also yield an unintelligible graph. I'll add more about this.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Towers
              Dec 11 '18 at 18:31










            • $begingroup$
              Wait, you took for c , -20,-10,0,10,20 and for d -2,-1,0,1,2 ? And for that how we know fore sure that will be for all that c and d reals solutions and what we get with this ? It's just many real solutions, but still not all real solutions--> General Solutions ?
              $endgroup$
              – Милош Вучковић
              Dec 12 '18 at 17:12










            • $begingroup$
              @МилошВучковић : Every real solution passes through at least one real point of the plane. Consequently, varying c and d through every real point of the plane will produce every solution (with infinitely many repetitions since every point on any particular solution is one of the initial conditions). Have you looked at genSol in the addendum? That's as general a solution as you're going to get but it is not what you asked for in your question.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Towers
              Dec 12 '18 at 17:23






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @МилошВучковић : The last picture is a smpling of real solutions. A graph of all real solutions is a solid plane since every point is a point on a particular solution.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Towers
              Dec 13 '18 at 21:42
















            1












            $begingroup$

            The general solution is not real valued. Try setting an initial condition:



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 1},
            y[x], x]
            ]


            yielding



            {{y[x] -> -2 I + (4 + 8 I)/((2 - I) + (2 + I) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}


            which is not real valued (almost everywhere). However, for a different initial condition



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 0},
            y[x], x]
            ]

            {{y[x] -> x^2 + 2 Tan[2 x]}}


            the solution is real valued.



            We can use a symbolic initial condition



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == c},
            y[x], x]
            ]

            {{y[x] -> -2 I + (8 - 4 I c)/(-2 I - c + (-2 I + c) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}


            and see that this complex valued behaviour is generic, but can be hidden with particular choices of the initial condition, c. Note that we can give the initial condition at a different value of the independent variable, and get different behaviour altogether. In fact, providing an initial condition at x=1 gives a real valued generic solution.



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[1] == c},
            y[x], x]
            ]

            {{ y[x] -> ( 2 (-1 + c + x^2) Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-4 + (-1 + c) x^2) Sin[2 - 2 x] )/
            ( 2 Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-1 + c) Sin[2 - 2 x] ) }}

            Plot[Table[y[x] /. %[[1]], {c, -2, 2}], {x, -2, 2}]


            Plot of several particular solutions.





            Starting over in full generality, we can get an unintelligible plot.



            genSol = FullSimplify[ ComplexExpand[
            y[x] /. DSolve[{
            y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4,
            y[d] == c},
            y[x], x][[1]]
            ]];
            Plot[Flatten[
            Table[genSol, {c, -20, 20, 10}, {d, -2, 2, 1}
            ], 1], {x, -4, 4}]


            Much too busy plot



            Here we have applied the generic initial condition $y(d) = c$ (via y[d] == c) so that we have labels for the parts of a point of a particular solution. Since we only want real solutions, we want $c$, $d$, and $x$ to be real. Applying ComplexExpand treats all the variables as if they are real, yielding real solutions passing through the point $(c,d)$. (The largest effect here is that the complex exponentials are rewritten in terms of sine and cosine.)






            share|improve this answer











            $endgroup$













            • $begingroup$
              And is this on the end "REAL" GENERAL SOLUTION which will include all reals solution that that General solution ?
              $endgroup$
              – Милош Вучковић
              Dec 11 '18 at 6:10










            • $begingroup$
              No. As explained, setting different y[d]==c will produce different solutions. The last one has d fixed at 1. Varying both c and d at once will produce all the real solutions and also yield an unintelligible graph. I'll add more about this.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Towers
              Dec 11 '18 at 18:31










            • $begingroup$
              Wait, you took for c , -20,-10,0,10,20 and for d -2,-1,0,1,2 ? And for that how we know fore sure that will be for all that c and d reals solutions and what we get with this ? It's just many real solutions, but still not all real solutions--> General Solutions ?
              $endgroup$
              – Милош Вучковић
              Dec 12 '18 at 17:12










            • $begingroup$
              @МилошВучковић : Every real solution passes through at least one real point of the plane. Consequently, varying c and d through every real point of the plane will produce every solution (with infinitely many repetitions since every point on any particular solution is one of the initial conditions). Have you looked at genSol in the addendum? That's as general a solution as you're going to get but it is not what you asked for in your question.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Towers
              Dec 12 '18 at 17:23






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @МилошВучковић : The last picture is a smpling of real solutions. A graph of all real solutions is a solid plane since every point is a point on a particular solution.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Towers
              Dec 13 '18 at 21:42














            1












            1








            1





            $begingroup$

            The general solution is not real valued. Try setting an initial condition:



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 1},
            y[x], x]
            ]


            yielding



            {{y[x] -> -2 I + (4 + 8 I)/((2 - I) + (2 + I) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}


            which is not real valued (almost everywhere). However, for a different initial condition



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 0},
            y[x], x]
            ]

            {{y[x] -> x^2 + 2 Tan[2 x]}}


            the solution is real valued.



            We can use a symbolic initial condition



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == c},
            y[x], x]
            ]

            {{y[x] -> -2 I + (8 - 4 I c)/(-2 I - c + (-2 I + c) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}


            and see that this complex valued behaviour is generic, but can be hidden with particular choices of the initial condition, c. Note that we can give the initial condition at a different value of the independent variable, and get different behaviour altogether. In fact, providing an initial condition at x=1 gives a real valued generic solution.



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[1] == c},
            y[x], x]
            ]

            {{ y[x] -> ( 2 (-1 + c + x^2) Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-4 + (-1 + c) x^2) Sin[2 - 2 x] )/
            ( 2 Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-1 + c) Sin[2 - 2 x] ) }}

            Plot[Table[y[x] /. %[[1]], {c, -2, 2}], {x, -2, 2}]


            Plot of several particular solutions.





            Starting over in full generality, we can get an unintelligible plot.



            genSol = FullSimplify[ ComplexExpand[
            y[x] /. DSolve[{
            y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4,
            y[d] == c},
            y[x], x][[1]]
            ]];
            Plot[Flatten[
            Table[genSol, {c, -20, 20, 10}, {d, -2, 2, 1}
            ], 1], {x, -4, 4}]


            Much too busy plot



            Here we have applied the generic initial condition $y(d) = c$ (via y[d] == c) so that we have labels for the parts of a point of a particular solution. Since we only want real solutions, we want $c$, $d$, and $x$ to be real. Applying ComplexExpand treats all the variables as if they are real, yielding real solutions passing through the point $(c,d)$. (The largest effect here is that the complex exponentials are rewritten in terms of sine and cosine.)






            share|improve this answer











            $endgroup$



            The general solution is not real valued. Try setting an initial condition:



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 1},
            y[x], x]
            ]


            yielding



            {{y[x] -> -2 I + (4 + 8 I)/((2 - I) + (2 + I) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}


            which is not real valued (almost everywhere). However, for a different initial condition



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 0},
            y[x], x]
            ]

            {{y[x] -> x^2 + 2 Tan[2 x]}}


            the solution is real valued.



            We can use a symbolic initial condition



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == c},
            y[x], x]
            ]

            {{y[x] -> -2 I + (8 - 4 I c)/(-2 I - c + (-2 I + c) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}


            and see that this complex valued behaviour is generic, but can be hidden with particular choices of the initial condition, c. Note that we can give the initial condition at a different value of the independent variable, and get different behaviour altogether. In fact, providing an initial condition at x=1 gives a real valued generic solution.



            FullSimplify[
            DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[1] == c},
            y[x], x]
            ]

            {{ y[x] -> ( 2 (-1 + c + x^2) Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-4 + (-1 + c) x^2) Sin[2 - 2 x] )/
            ( 2 Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-1 + c) Sin[2 - 2 x] ) }}

            Plot[Table[y[x] /. %[[1]], {c, -2, 2}], {x, -2, 2}]


            Plot of several particular solutions.





            Starting over in full generality, we can get an unintelligible plot.



            genSol = FullSimplify[ ComplexExpand[
            y[x] /. DSolve[{
            y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4,
            y[d] == c},
            y[x], x][[1]]
            ]];
            Plot[Flatten[
            Table[genSol, {c, -20, 20, 10}, {d, -2, 2, 1}
            ], 1], {x, -4, 4}]


            Much too busy plot



            Here we have applied the generic initial condition $y(d) = c$ (via y[d] == c) so that we have labels for the parts of a point of a particular solution. Since we only want real solutions, we want $c$, $d$, and $x$ to be real. Applying ComplexExpand treats all the variables as if they are real, yielding real solutions passing through the point $(c,d)$. (The largest effect here is that the complex exponentials are rewritten in terms of sine and cosine.)







            share|improve this answer














            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer








            edited Dec 12 '18 at 17:49

























            answered Nov 28 '18 at 4:48









            Eric TowersEric Towers

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            • $begingroup$
              And is this on the end "REAL" GENERAL SOLUTION which will include all reals solution that that General solution ?
              $endgroup$
              – Милош Вучковић
              Dec 11 '18 at 6:10










            • $begingroup$
              No. As explained, setting different y[d]==c will produce different solutions. The last one has d fixed at 1. Varying both c and d at once will produce all the real solutions and also yield an unintelligible graph. I'll add more about this.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Towers
              Dec 11 '18 at 18:31










            • $begingroup$
              Wait, you took for c , -20,-10,0,10,20 and for d -2,-1,0,1,2 ? And for that how we know fore sure that will be for all that c and d reals solutions and what we get with this ? It's just many real solutions, but still not all real solutions--> General Solutions ?
              $endgroup$
              – Милош Вучковић
              Dec 12 '18 at 17:12










            • $begingroup$
              @МилошВучковић : Every real solution passes through at least one real point of the plane. Consequently, varying c and d through every real point of the plane will produce every solution (with infinitely many repetitions since every point on any particular solution is one of the initial conditions). Have you looked at genSol in the addendum? That's as general a solution as you're going to get but it is not what you asked for in your question.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Towers
              Dec 12 '18 at 17:23






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @МилошВучковић : The last picture is a smpling of real solutions. A graph of all real solutions is a solid plane since every point is a point on a particular solution.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Towers
              Dec 13 '18 at 21:42


















            • $begingroup$
              And is this on the end "REAL" GENERAL SOLUTION which will include all reals solution that that General solution ?
              $endgroup$
              – Милош Вучковић
              Dec 11 '18 at 6:10










            • $begingroup$
              No. As explained, setting different y[d]==c will produce different solutions. The last one has d fixed at 1. Varying both c and d at once will produce all the real solutions and also yield an unintelligible graph. I'll add more about this.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Towers
              Dec 11 '18 at 18:31










            • $begingroup$
              Wait, you took for c , -20,-10,0,10,20 and for d -2,-1,0,1,2 ? And for that how we know fore sure that will be for all that c and d reals solutions and what we get with this ? It's just many real solutions, but still not all real solutions--> General Solutions ?
              $endgroup$
              – Милош Вучковић
              Dec 12 '18 at 17:12










            • $begingroup$
              @МилошВучковић : Every real solution passes through at least one real point of the plane. Consequently, varying c and d through every real point of the plane will produce every solution (with infinitely many repetitions since every point on any particular solution is one of the initial conditions). Have you looked at genSol in the addendum? That's as general a solution as you're going to get but it is not what you asked for in your question.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Towers
              Dec 12 '18 at 17:23






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @МилошВучковић : The last picture is a smpling of real solutions. A graph of all real solutions is a solid plane since every point is a point on a particular solution.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Towers
              Dec 13 '18 at 21:42
















            $begingroup$
            And is this on the end "REAL" GENERAL SOLUTION which will include all reals solution that that General solution ?
            $endgroup$
            – Милош Вучковић
            Dec 11 '18 at 6:10




            $begingroup$
            And is this on the end "REAL" GENERAL SOLUTION which will include all reals solution that that General solution ?
            $endgroup$
            – Милош Вучковић
            Dec 11 '18 at 6:10












            $begingroup$
            No. As explained, setting different y[d]==c will produce different solutions. The last one has d fixed at 1. Varying both c and d at once will produce all the real solutions and also yield an unintelligible graph. I'll add more about this.
            $endgroup$
            – Eric Towers
            Dec 11 '18 at 18:31




            $begingroup$
            No. As explained, setting different y[d]==c will produce different solutions. The last one has d fixed at 1. Varying both c and d at once will produce all the real solutions and also yield an unintelligible graph. I'll add more about this.
            $endgroup$
            – Eric Towers
            Dec 11 '18 at 18:31












            $begingroup$
            Wait, you took for c , -20,-10,0,10,20 and for d -2,-1,0,1,2 ? And for that how we know fore sure that will be for all that c and d reals solutions and what we get with this ? It's just many real solutions, but still not all real solutions--> General Solutions ?
            $endgroup$
            – Милош Вучковић
            Dec 12 '18 at 17:12




            $begingroup$
            Wait, you took for c , -20,-10,0,10,20 and for d -2,-1,0,1,2 ? And for that how we know fore sure that will be for all that c and d reals solutions and what we get with this ? It's just many real solutions, but still not all real solutions--> General Solutions ?
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            – Милош Вучковић
            Dec 12 '18 at 17:12












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            @МилошВучковић : Every real solution passes through at least one real point of the plane. Consequently, varying c and d through every real point of the plane will produce every solution (with infinitely many repetitions since every point on any particular solution is one of the initial conditions). Have you looked at genSol in the addendum? That's as general a solution as you're going to get but it is not what you asked for in your question.
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            – Eric Towers
            Dec 12 '18 at 17:23




            $begingroup$
            @МилошВучковић : Every real solution passes through at least one real point of the plane. Consequently, varying c and d through every real point of the plane will produce every solution (with infinitely many repetitions since every point on any particular solution is one of the initial conditions). Have you looked at genSol in the addendum? That's as general a solution as you're going to get but it is not what you asked for in your question.
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            – Eric Towers
            Dec 12 '18 at 17:23




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            @МилошВучковић : The last picture is a smpling of real solutions. A graph of all real solutions is a solid plane since every point is a point on a particular solution.
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            – Eric Towers
            Dec 13 '18 at 21:42




            $begingroup$
            @МилошВучковић : The last picture is a smpling of real solutions. A graph of all real solutions is a solid plane since every point is a point on a particular solution.
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            – Eric Towers
            Dec 13 '18 at 21:42


















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