How could a planet have a sky without stars at night?












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Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?



I'm looking for some kind of natural phenomena that would hide the stars, but allow the sun to rise and fall as normal. The atmosphere and day/night cycles should be unaffected.



It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.



This can be a solar system with only one planet.










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    No stars. No moon (I assume). You always have a sun. You'll have clouds. No asteroids? No meteors? I'm not convinced you can create the basis you're looking for. IMO, intelligent primates will always look at birds and want to fly, and they'll always want to fly higher, and God is almost always up where the sun is.... I'm not feeling this one.
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    I live in Ireland. Normally the weather here does a pretty good job of hiding the stars. :-)
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Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?



I'm looking for some kind of natural phenomena that would hide the stars, but allow the sun to rise and fall as normal. The atmosphere and day/night cycles should be unaffected.



It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.



This can be a solar system with only one planet.










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    No stars. No moon (I assume). You always have a sun. You'll have clouds. No asteroids? No meteors? I'm not convinced you can create the basis you're looking for. IMO, intelligent primates will always look at birds and want to fly, and they'll always want to fly higher, and God is almost always up where the sun is.... I'm not feeling this one.
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  • Do a Hollow Earth fits your needs?
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    I live in Ireland. Normally the weather here does a pretty good job of hiding the stars. :-)
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Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?



I'm looking for some kind of natural phenomena that would hide the stars, but allow the sun to rise and fall as normal. The atmosphere and day/night cycles should be unaffected.



It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.



This can be a solar system with only one planet.










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Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?



I'm looking for some kind of natural phenomena that would hide the stars, but allow the sun to rise and fall as normal. The atmosphere and day/night cycles should be unaffected.



It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.



This can be a solar system with only one planet.







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    No stars. No moon (I assume). You always have a sun. You'll have clouds. No asteroids? No meteors? I'm not convinced you can create the basis you're looking for. IMO, intelligent primates will always look at birds and want to fly, and they'll always want to fly higher, and God is almost always up where the sun is.... I'm not feeling this one.
    – JBH
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  • Do a Hollow Earth fits your needs?
    – kikirex
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    I live in Ireland. Normally the weather here does a pretty good job of hiding the stars. :-)
    – StephenG
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    No stars. No moon (I assume). You always have a sun. You'll have clouds. No asteroids? No meteors? I'm not convinced you can create the basis you're looking for. IMO, intelligent primates will always look at birds and want to fly, and they'll always want to fly higher, and God is almost always up where the sun is.... I'm not feeling this one.
    – JBH
    4 hours ago










  • Do a Hollow Earth fits your needs?
    – kikirex
    2 hours ago






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    I live in Ireland. Normally the weather here does a pretty good job of hiding the stars. :-)
    – StephenG
    2 hours ago








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No stars. No moon (I assume). You always have a sun. You'll have clouds. No asteroids? No meteors? I'm not convinced you can create the basis you're looking for. IMO, intelligent primates will always look at birds and want to fly, and they'll always want to fly higher, and God is almost always up where the sun is.... I'm not feeling this one.
– JBH
4 hours ago




No stars. No moon (I assume). You always have a sun. You'll have clouds. No asteroids? No meteors? I'm not convinced you can create the basis you're looking for. IMO, intelligent primates will always look at birds and want to fly, and they'll always want to fly higher, and God is almost always up where the sun is.... I'm not feeling this one.
– JBH
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Do a Hollow Earth fits your needs?
– kikirex
2 hours ago




Do a Hollow Earth fits your needs?
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I live in Ireland. Normally the weather here does a pretty good job of hiding the stars. :-)
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I live in Ireland. Normally the weather here does a pretty good job of hiding the stars. :-)
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Dust cloud.



The star may be residing in a dust cloud with no other stars nearby. This interstellar dust will create a faint nighttime glow, and can be thick enough that no other star's light can be visible on the planet.






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Perhaps their planet is on the inside of a giant Dyson sphere that was created by an ancient civilization.



This would be a vast solid shell that surrounds their entire solar system, the inside of which is covered with solar panels in order to collect as near as possible to 100% of the energy output of their sun. Naturally, this would block their view of the rest of the galaxy as well.



As for why the ancient civilization who built it left this one planet on the inside, that's up to you to decide. Maybe they saw that it had some life forms that might potentially develop intelligence some day and didn't want to just kill them off, so they left them where they were, while dismantling all the rest of the planets in the system to build the spere?






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    Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
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    For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
    – elemtilas
    3 hours ago










  • You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
    – ltmauve
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  • If they showed movies on the inside of the shell, that would work just as well and you could see movies. They would need to be filmed with that special IMAX camera though.
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  • The solid shell would need a way to dissipate the heat produced by the star. Otherwise it would get very toasty inside.
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One possibility is for the surface of the planet to be covered in highly luminous matter. Perhaps all the surface is an interconnected network of bioluminescent life.



There is no moon (assumed because you make no mention) and the high levels of light pollution at night will blot the stars out.



You could combine with a naturally hazy atmosphere and cloud cover to a) further blot the stars and b) reflect all that light pollution back to the surface, further brightening it at night.



Normal urban terrestrial light pollution (before and during the great 2003 Northeast Blackout) to give you an idea:



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  • Interesting, but in order to have light pollution we need a source of light. Moonless starless sky implies that such source must be elsewhere.
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    @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
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  • @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
    – Alexander
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  • @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
    – elemtilas
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  • @elemtilas For light pollution to bleed 100-200 km away, the atmosphere needs to be so hazy that sun can not be seen "to rise and fall as normal". Day/night cycle will be definitely affected.
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there are many ways. especially if it's just you don't see the stars.



there could be a constant storm like on Jupiter and in 'All Summer In a Day' by Ray Bradbury.



Venus has an atmosphere made up mainly of carbon dioxide, and thick clouds of sulfuric acid completely cover the planet.



basically, clouds covering the entire planet would do the trick.



'light pollution' would also make it so the stars can't be seen because the ground is so bright.
Night Sky in Las Vegas Which is always full of light especially at night
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    The sun takes up about half a degree in Earth's sky. Stars are less than one ten thousandths of that. If atmospheric blurring were to blur a star one hundredth of a degree, their light would be spread over an area hundreds of times larger, making them practically invisible, while the effect on the sun will be minuscule.






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      It is never night.



      midnight sun
      https://www.tripsavvy.com/midnight-sun-in-scandinavia-1626397



      Your people live on the north pole of a tidally locked planet. Like the countries near the north pole on our planet, in summer the sun never sets. It is always summer for your people.



      Why do they only live near the pole? Maybe it is hot farther south. Maybe there are scratchy monsters. Maybe there is no land to live on.



      Maybe they are afraid of the dark.






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      • Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
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      The laziest answer is to just wait a while. If you wait an incomprehensibly-long while, eventually the expansion of the universe will move all currently near-by light generating bodies outside of our visual distance.



      In other words, civilizations in the far-future may never realize that anything other than their own sun exists, because nothing else is close enough to interact with anymore. This video has a nice overview:



      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4vb-KH5F4






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      It's part of a rogue solar system ejected from any galaxy, somewhere in the middle of a large intergalactic void.



      No stars would be visible until the inhabitants developed sufficiently powerful telescopes to be able to see the faint light of distant galaxies.






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      • The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
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      Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?




      It depends on what you mean by "our part" of the galaxy. If you point yourself in the direction of Sagittarius and travel a mere 2600 light years you will find yourself smack in the middle of the Great Rift, which is the dark patch you see covering the Milky Way.



      https://earthsky.org/clusters-nebulae-galaxies/the-great-rift-in-the-milky-way



      This is an area where new stars are formed, but obviously the dust is thick enough that we cannot see through it in the visible spectrum. It seems plausible that there could be star systems in that large area where the dust is thick enough that no other star is visible.



      Note that the "thick" dust is by Earth surface standards extremely dilute and would be considered a high-quality vacuum. It's only the fact that there are light years of the stuff that make it hard to see through.




      It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.




      You might wish to research how the "space cloud" and "planet that doesn't know about space" tropes have been done before. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceClouds and https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Krikkit may be useful.






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        The sun is a star, but I know what you mean. Here are some other options:




        • Multiple suns (such as Asimov's "Nightfall")

        • One sun, and many moons

        • Large amounts of very white (or reflective) dust, which reflects sunlight around the atmosphere.

        • Underground or underwater societies.

        • Regular volcanic eruptions causing volcanic ash in the atmosphere (or anything else in the atmosphere)

        • Monsters that come out at sunset

        • taboo/superstition/religion

        • Your planet might be near a black hole, causing gravitational lensing, an accretion disk, unusually high speed orbits, and jets coming from the poles.






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          The star may be residing in a dust cloud with no other stars nearby. This interstellar dust will create a faint nighttime glow, and can be thick enough that no other star's light can be visible on the planet.






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          The star may be residing in a dust cloud with no other stars nearby. This interstellar dust will create a faint nighttime glow, and can be thick enough that no other star's light can be visible on the planet.






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          The star may be residing in a dust cloud with no other stars nearby. This interstellar dust will create a faint nighttime glow, and can be thick enough that no other star's light can be visible on the planet.






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          Dust cloud.



          The star may be residing in a dust cloud with no other stars nearby. This interstellar dust will create a faint nighttime glow, and can be thick enough that no other star's light can be visible on the planet.







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          Perhaps their planet is on the inside of a giant Dyson sphere that was created by an ancient civilization.



          This would be a vast solid shell that surrounds their entire solar system, the inside of which is covered with solar panels in order to collect as near as possible to 100% of the energy output of their sun. Naturally, this would block their view of the rest of the galaxy as well.



          As for why the ancient civilization who built it left this one planet on the inside, that's up to you to decide. Maybe they saw that it had some life forms that might potentially develop intelligence some day and didn't want to just kill them off, so they left them where they were, while dismantling all the rest of the planets in the system to build the spere?






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            Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
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            For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
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          • You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
            – ltmauve
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          • If they showed movies on the inside of the shell, that would work just as well and you could see movies. They would need to be filmed with that special IMAX camera though.
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          • The solid shell would need a way to dissipate the heat produced by the star. Otherwise it would get very toasty inside.
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          Perhaps their planet is on the inside of a giant Dyson sphere that was created by an ancient civilization.



          This would be a vast solid shell that surrounds their entire solar system, the inside of which is covered with solar panels in order to collect as near as possible to 100% of the energy output of their sun. Naturally, this would block their view of the rest of the galaxy as well.



          As for why the ancient civilization who built it left this one planet on the inside, that's up to you to decide. Maybe they saw that it had some life forms that might potentially develop intelligence some day and didn't want to just kill them off, so they left them where they were, while dismantling all the rest of the planets in the system to build the spere?






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            Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
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            For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
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          • You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
            – ltmauve
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          • If they showed movies on the inside of the shell, that would work just as well and you could see movies. They would need to be filmed with that special IMAX camera though.
            – Willk
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          • The solid shell would need a way to dissipate the heat produced by the star. Otherwise it would get very toasty inside.
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          Perhaps their planet is on the inside of a giant Dyson sphere that was created by an ancient civilization.



          This would be a vast solid shell that surrounds their entire solar system, the inside of which is covered with solar panels in order to collect as near as possible to 100% of the energy output of their sun. Naturally, this would block their view of the rest of the galaxy as well.



          As for why the ancient civilization who built it left this one planet on the inside, that's up to you to decide. Maybe they saw that it had some life forms that might potentially develop intelligence some day and didn't want to just kill them off, so they left them where they were, while dismantling all the rest of the planets in the system to build the spere?






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          Perhaps their planet is on the inside of a giant Dyson sphere that was created by an ancient civilization.



          This would be a vast solid shell that surrounds their entire solar system, the inside of which is covered with solar panels in order to collect as near as possible to 100% of the energy output of their sun. Naturally, this would block their view of the rest of the galaxy as well.



          As for why the ancient civilization who built it left this one planet on the inside, that's up to you to decide. Maybe they saw that it had some life forms that might potentially develop intelligence some day and didn't want to just kill them off, so they left them where they were, while dismantling all the rest of the planets in the system to build the spere?







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            Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
            – JBH
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            For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
            – elemtilas
            3 hours ago










          • You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
            – ltmauve
            2 hours ago










          • If they showed movies on the inside of the shell, that would work just as well and you could see movies. They would need to be filmed with that special IMAX camera though.
            – Willk
            1 hour ago










          • The solid shell would need a way to dissipate the heat produced by the star. Otherwise it would get very toasty inside.
            – n0rd
            1 hour ago














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            Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
            – JBH
            4 hours ago








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            For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
            – elemtilas
            3 hours ago










          • You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
            – ltmauve
            2 hours ago










          • If they showed movies on the inside of the shell, that would work just as well and you could see movies. They would need to be filmed with that special IMAX camera though.
            – Willk
            1 hour ago










          • The solid shell would need a way to dissipate the heat produced by the star. Otherwise it would get very toasty inside.
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            1 hour ago








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          Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
          – JBH
          4 hours ago






          Paint the inner surface matte black and you have a winner. It's not a natural phenomena, but a decent alternative. Well done!
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          4 hours ago






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          For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
          – elemtilas
          3 hours ago




          For the (relatively) primitive people on the planet, it is a natural phenomenon! It's literally the edge of the universe!
          – elemtilas
          3 hours ago












          You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
          – ltmauve
          2 hours ago




          You don't have to paint the surface of the dyson sphere black if it has 100% (or even 99%+) efficient solar panels on it, since very little of the light would be reflected.
          – ltmauve
          2 hours ago












          If they showed movies on the inside of the shell, that would work just as well and you could see movies. They would need to be filmed with that special IMAX camera though.
          – Willk
          1 hour ago




          If they showed movies on the inside of the shell, that would work just as well and you could see movies. They would need to be filmed with that special IMAX camera though.
          – Willk
          1 hour ago












          The solid shell would need a way to dissipate the heat produced by the star. Otherwise it would get very toasty inside.
          – n0rd
          1 hour ago




          The solid shell would need a way to dissipate the heat produced by the star. Otherwise it would get very toasty inside.
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          One possibility is for the surface of the planet to be covered in highly luminous matter. Perhaps all the surface is an interconnected network of bioluminescent life.



          There is no moon (assumed because you make no mention) and the high levels of light pollution at night will blot the stars out.



          You could combine with a naturally hazy atmosphere and cloud cover to a) further blot the stars and b) reflect all that light pollution back to the surface, further brightening it at night.



          Normal urban terrestrial light pollution (before and during the great 2003 Northeast Blackout) to give you an idea:



          enter image description here






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          • Interesting, but in order to have light pollution we need a source of light. Moonless starless sky implies that such source must be elsewhere.
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            @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
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          • @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
            – Alexander
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          • @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
            – elemtilas
            1 hour ago










          • @elemtilas For light pollution to bleed 100-200 km away, the atmosphere needs to be so hazy that sun can not be seen "to rise and fall as normal". Day/night cycle will be definitely affected.
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          One possibility is for the surface of the planet to be covered in highly luminous matter. Perhaps all the surface is an interconnected network of bioluminescent life.



          There is no moon (assumed because you make no mention) and the high levels of light pollution at night will blot the stars out.



          You could combine with a naturally hazy atmosphere and cloud cover to a) further blot the stars and b) reflect all that light pollution back to the surface, further brightening it at night.



          Normal urban terrestrial light pollution (before and during the great 2003 Northeast Blackout) to give you an idea:



          enter image description here






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          • Interesting, but in order to have light pollution we need a source of light. Moonless starless sky implies that such source must be elsewhere.
            – Alexander
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            @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
            – Andon
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          • @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
            – Alexander
            1 hour ago










          • @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
            – elemtilas
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          • @elemtilas For light pollution to bleed 100-200 km away, the atmosphere needs to be so hazy that sun can not be seen "to rise and fall as normal". Day/night cycle will be definitely affected.
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          One possibility is for the surface of the planet to be covered in highly luminous matter. Perhaps all the surface is an interconnected network of bioluminescent life.



          There is no moon (assumed because you make no mention) and the high levels of light pollution at night will blot the stars out.



          You could combine with a naturally hazy atmosphere and cloud cover to a) further blot the stars and b) reflect all that light pollution back to the surface, further brightening it at night.



          Normal urban terrestrial light pollution (before and during the great 2003 Northeast Blackout) to give you an idea:



          enter image description here






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          One possibility is for the surface of the planet to be covered in highly luminous matter. Perhaps all the surface is an interconnected network of bioluminescent life.



          There is no moon (assumed because you make no mention) and the high levels of light pollution at night will blot the stars out.



          You could combine with a naturally hazy atmosphere and cloud cover to a) further blot the stars and b) reflect all that light pollution back to the surface, further brightening it at night.



          Normal urban terrestrial light pollution (before and during the great 2003 Northeast Blackout) to give you an idea:



          enter image description here







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          • Interesting, but in order to have light pollution we need a source of light. Moonless starless sky implies that such source must be elsewhere.
            – Alexander
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            @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
            – Andon
            2 hours ago










          • @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
            – Alexander
            1 hour ago










          • @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
            – elemtilas
            1 hour ago










          • @elemtilas For light pollution to bleed 100-200 km away, the atmosphere needs to be so hazy that sun can not be seen "to rise and fall as normal". Day/night cycle will be definitely affected.
            – Alexander
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          • Interesting, but in order to have light pollution we need a source of light. Moonless starless sky implies that such source must be elsewhere.
            – Alexander
            3 hours ago






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            @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
            – Andon
            2 hours ago










          • @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
            – Alexander
            1 hour ago










          • @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
            – elemtilas
            1 hour ago










          • @elemtilas For light pollution to bleed 100-200 km away, the atmosphere needs to be so hazy that sun can not be seen "to rise and fall as normal". Day/night cycle will be definitely affected.
            – Alexander
            1 hour ago
















          Interesting, but in order to have light pollution we need a source of light. Moonless starless sky implies that such source must be elsewhere.
          – Alexander
          3 hours ago




          Interesting, but in order to have light pollution we need a source of light. Moonless starless sky implies that such source must be elsewhere.
          – Alexander
          3 hours ago




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          1




          @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
          – Andon
          2 hours ago




          @Alexander I believe that's why bioluminescent life was mentioned.
          – Andon
          2 hours ago












          @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
          – Alexander
          1 hour ago




          @Andon bioluminescent life needs to be spread quite universally, leaving no big gaps at polar regions, deserts, mountain regions etc.
          – Alexander
          1 hour ago












          @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
          – elemtilas
          1 hour ago




          @Alexander -- exactly as I said...
          – elemtilas
          1 hour ago












          @elemtilas For light pollution to bleed 100-200 km away, the atmosphere needs to be so hazy that sun can not be seen "to rise and fall as normal". Day/night cycle will be definitely affected.
          – Alexander
          1 hour ago




          @elemtilas For light pollution to bleed 100-200 km away, the atmosphere needs to be so hazy that sun can not be seen "to rise and fall as normal". Day/night cycle will be definitely affected.
          – Alexander
          1 hour ago











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          there are many ways. especially if it's just you don't see the stars.



          there could be a constant storm like on Jupiter and in 'All Summer In a Day' by Ray Bradbury.



          Venus has an atmosphere made up mainly of carbon dioxide, and thick clouds of sulfuric acid completely cover the planet.



          basically, clouds covering the entire planet would do the trick.



          'light pollution' would also make it so the stars can't be seen because the ground is so bright.
          Night Sky in Las Vegas Which is always full of light especially at night
          enter image description here



          vs the Idaho dark sky preserve
          enter image description here






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            there are many ways. especially if it's just you don't see the stars.



            there could be a constant storm like on Jupiter and in 'All Summer In a Day' by Ray Bradbury.



            Venus has an atmosphere made up mainly of carbon dioxide, and thick clouds of sulfuric acid completely cover the planet.



            basically, clouds covering the entire planet would do the trick.



            'light pollution' would also make it so the stars can't be seen because the ground is so bright.
            Night Sky in Las Vegas Which is always full of light especially at night
            enter image description here



            vs the Idaho dark sky preserve
            enter image description here






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              there are many ways. especially if it's just you don't see the stars.



              there could be a constant storm like on Jupiter and in 'All Summer In a Day' by Ray Bradbury.



              Venus has an atmosphere made up mainly of carbon dioxide, and thick clouds of sulfuric acid completely cover the planet.



              basically, clouds covering the entire planet would do the trick.



              'light pollution' would also make it so the stars can't be seen because the ground is so bright.
              Night Sky in Las Vegas Which is always full of light especially at night
              enter image description here



              vs the Idaho dark sky preserve
              enter image description here






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              there are many ways. especially if it's just you don't see the stars.



              there could be a constant storm like on Jupiter and in 'All Summer In a Day' by Ray Bradbury.



              Venus has an atmosphere made up mainly of carbon dioxide, and thick clouds of sulfuric acid completely cover the planet.



              basically, clouds covering the entire planet would do the trick.



              'light pollution' would also make it so the stars can't be seen because the ground is so bright.
              Night Sky in Las Vegas Which is always full of light especially at night
              enter image description here



              vs the Idaho dark sky preserve
              enter image description here







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              Rowyn Alloway

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                  The sun takes up about half a degree in Earth's sky. Stars are less than one ten thousandths of that. If atmospheric blurring were to blur a star one hundredth of a degree, their light would be spread over an area hundreds of times larger, making them practically invisible, while the effect on the sun will be minuscule.






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                    The sun takes up about half a degree in Earth's sky. Stars are less than one ten thousandths of that. If atmospheric blurring were to blur a star one hundredth of a degree, their light would be spread over an area hundreds of times larger, making them practically invisible, while the effect on the sun will be minuscule.






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                      The sun takes up about half a degree in Earth's sky. Stars are less than one ten thousandths of that. If atmospheric blurring were to blur a star one hundredth of a degree, their light would be spread over an area hundreds of times larger, making them practically invisible, while the effect on the sun will be minuscule.






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                      The sun takes up about half a degree in Earth's sky. Stars are less than one ten thousandths of that. If atmospheric blurring were to blur a star one hundredth of a degree, their light would be spread over an area hundreds of times larger, making them practically invisible, while the effect on the sun will be minuscule.







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                          It is never night.



                          midnight sun
                          https://www.tripsavvy.com/midnight-sun-in-scandinavia-1626397



                          Your people live on the north pole of a tidally locked planet. Like the countries near the north pole on our planet, in summer the sun never sets. It is always summer for your people.



                          Why do they only live near the pole? Maybe it is hot farther south. Maybe there are scratchy monsters. Maybe there is no land to live on.



                          Maybe they are afraid of the dark.






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                          • Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
                            – B.fox
                            31 mins ago
















                          4














                          It is never night.



                          midnight sun
                          https://www.tripsavvy.com/midnight-sun-in-scandinavia-1626397



                          Your people live on the north pole of a tidally locked planet. Like the countries near the north pole on our planet, in summer the sun never sets. It is always summer for your people.



                          Why do they only live near the pole? Maybe it is hot farther south. Maybe there are scratchy monsters. Maybe there is no land to live on.



                          Maybe they are afraid of the dark.






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                          • Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
                            – B.fox
                            31 mins ago














                          4












                          4








                          4






                          It is never night.



                          midnight sun
                          https://www.tripsavvy.com/midnight-sun-in-scandinavia-1626397



                          Your people live on the north pole of a tidally locked planet. Like the countries near the north pole on our planet, in summer the sun never sets. It is always summer for your people.



                          Why do they only live near the pole? Maybe it is hot farther south. Maybe there are scratchy monsters. Maybe there is no land to live on.



                          Maybe they are afraid of the dark.






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                          It is never night.



                          midnight sun
                          https://www.tripsavvy.com/midnight-sun-in-scandinavia-1626397



                          Your people live on the north pole of a tidally locked planet. Like the countries near the north pole on our planet, in summer the sun never sets. It is always summer for your people.



                          Why do they only live near the pole? Maybe it is hot farther south. Maybe there are scratchy monsters. Maybe there is no land to live on.



                          Maybe they are afraid of the dark.







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                          • Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
                            – B.fox
                            31 mins ago


















                          • Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
                            – B.fox
                            31 mins ago
















                          Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
                          – B.fox
                          31 mins ago




                          Even better: a planet orbits the barycenter of a binary system within the binary's orbit, each face of the planet illuminated.
                          – B.fox
                          31 mins ago











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                          The laziest answer is to just wait a while. If you wait an incomprehensibly-long while, eventually the expansion of the universe will move all currently near-by light generating bodies outside of our visual distance.



                          In other words, civilizations in the far-future may never realize that anything other than their own sun exists, because nothing else is close enough to interact with anymore. This video has a nice overview:



                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4vb-KH5F4






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                          • :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
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                          4














                          The laziest answer is to just wait a while. If you wait an incomprehensibly-long while, eventually the expansion of the universe will move all currently near-by light generating bodies outside of our visual distance.



                          In other words, civilizations in the far-future may never realize that anything other than their own sun exists, because nothing else is close enough to interact with anymore. This video has a nice overview:



                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4vb-KH5F4






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                          • :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
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                          4












                          4








                          4






                          The laziest answer is to just wait a while. If you wait an incomprehensibly-long while, eventually the expansion of the universe will move all currently near-by light generating bodies outside of our visual distance.



                          In other words, civilizations in the far-future may never realize that anything other than their own sun exists, because nothing else is close enough to interact with anymore. This video has a nice overview:



                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4vb-KH5F4






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                          The laziest answer is to just wait a while. If you wait an incomprehensibly-long while, eventually the expansion of the universe will move all currently near-by light generating bodies outside of our visual distance.



                          In other words, civilizations in the far-future may never realize that anything other than their own sun exists, because nothing else is close enough to interact with anymore. This video has a nice overview:



                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4vb-KH5F4







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                          • :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
                            – AMADANON Inc.
                            38 mins ago


















                          • :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
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                            38 mins ago
















                          :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
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                          38 mins ago




                          :D equating "a while" with "incomprehensibly long while" Good answer though.
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                          It's part of a rogue solar system ejected from any galaxy, somewhere in the middle of a large intergalactic void.



                          No stars would be visible until the inhabitants developed sufficiently powerful telescopes to be able to see the faint light of distant galaxies.






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                          • The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
                            – Andon
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                          1














                          It's part of a rogue solar system ejected from any galaxy, somewhere in the middle of a large intergalactic void.



                          No stars would be visible until the inhabitants developed sufficiently powerful telescopes to be able to see the faint light of distant galaxies.






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                          • The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
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                            1 hour ago














                          1












                          1








                          1






                          It's part of a rogue solar system ejected from any galaxy, somewhere in the middle of a large intergalactic void.



                          No stars would be visible until the inhabitants developed sufficiently powerful telescopes to be able to see the faint light of distant galaxies.






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                          It's part of a rogue solar system ejected from any galaxy, somewhere in the middle of a large intergalactic void.



                          No stars would be visible until the inhabitants developed sufficiently powerful telescopes to be able to see the faint light of distant galaxies.







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                          • The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
                            – Andon
                            1 hour ago


















                          • The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
                            – Andon
                            1 hour ago
















                          The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
                          – Andon
                          1 hour ago




                          The question asks for "A planet in our part of the galaxy"
                          – Andon
                          1 hour ago











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                          Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?




                          It depends on what you mean by "our part" of the galaxy. If you point yourself in the direction of Sagittarius and travel a mere 2600 light years you will find yourself smack in the middle of the Great Rift, which is the dark patch you see covering the Milky Way.



                          https://earthsky.org/clusters-nebulae-galaxies/the-great-rift-in-the-milky-way



                          This is an area where new stars are formed, but obviously the dust is thick enough that we cannot see through it in the visible spectrum. It seems plausible that there could be star systems in that large area where the dust is thick enough that no other star is visible.



                          Note that the "thick" dust is by Earth surface standards extremely dilute and would be considered a high-quality vacuum. It's only the fact that there are light years of the stuff that make it hard to see through.




                          It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.




                          You might wish to research how the "space cloud" and "planet that doesn't know about space" tropes have been done before. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceClouds and https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Krikkit may be useful.






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                            Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?




                            It depends on what you mean by "our part" of the galaxy. If you point yourself in the direction of Sagittarius and travel a mere 2600 light years you will find yourself smack in the middle of the Great Rift, which is the dark patch you see covering the Milky Way.



                            https://earthsky.org/clusters-nebulae-galaxies/the-great-rift-in-the-milky-way



                            This is an area where new stars are formed, but obviously the dust is thick enough that we cannot see through it in the visible spectrum. It seems plausible that there could be star systems in that large area where the dust is thick enough that no other star is visible.



                            Note that the "thick" dust is by Earth surface standards extremely dilute and would be considered a high-quality vacuum. It's only the fact that there are light years of the stuff that make it hard to see through.




                            It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.




                            You might wish to research how the "space cloud" and "planet that doesn't know about space" tropes have been done before. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceClouds and https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Krikkit may be useful.






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                              Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?




                              It depends on what you mean by "our part" of the galaxy. If you point yourself in the direction of Sagittarius and travel a mere 2600 light years you will find yourself smack in the middle of the Great Rift, which is the dark patch you see covering the Milky Way.



                              https://earthsky.org/clusters-nebulae-galaxies/the-great-rift-in-the-milky-way



                              This is an area where new stars are formed, but obviously the dust is thick enough that we cannot see through it in the visible spectrum. It seems plausible that there could be star systems in that large area where the dust is thick enough that no other star is visible.



                              Note that the "thick" dust is by Earth surface standards extremely dilute and would be considered a high-quality vacuum. It's only the fact that there are light years of the stuff that make it hard to see through.




                              It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.




                              You might wish to research how the "space cloud" and "planet that doesn't know about space" tropes have been done before. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceClouds and https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Krikkit may be useful.






                              share|improve this answer













                              Is it possible for a planet in our part of the galaxy to have a night without stars?




                              It depends on what you mean by "our part" of the galaxy. If you point yourself in the direction of Sagittarius and travel a mere 2600 light years you will find yourself smack in the middle of the Great Rift, which is the dark patch you see covering the Milky Way.



                              https://earthsky.org/clusters-nebulae-galaxies/the-great-rift-in-the-milky-way



                              This is an area where new stars are formed, but obviously the dust is thick enough that we cannot see through it in the visible spectrum. It seems plausible that there could be star systems in that large area where the dust is thick enough that no other star is visible.



                              Note that the "thick" dust is by Earth surface standards extremely dilute and would be considered a high-quality vacuum. It's only the fact that there are light years of the stuff that make it hard to see through.




                              It is the basis for a society that develops into the modern age without an interest in outer space.




                              You might wish to research how the "space cloud" and "planet that doesn't know about space" tropes have been done before. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceClouds and https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Krikkit may be useful.







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                                  The sun is a star, but I know what you mean. Here are some other options:




                                  • Multiple suns (such as Asimov's "Nightfall")

                                  • One sun, and many moons

                                  • Large amounts of very white (or reflective) dust, which reflects sunlight around the atmosphere.

                                  • Underground or underwater societies.

                                  • Regular volcanic eruptions causing volcanic ash in the atmosphere (or anything else in the atmosphere)

                                  • Monsters that come out at sunset

                                  • taboo/superstition/religion

                                  • Your planet might be near a black hole, causing gravitational lensing, an accretion disk, unusually high speed orbits, and jets coming from the poles.






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                                    The sun is a star, but I know what you mean. Here are some other options:




                                    • Multiple suns (such as Asimov's "Nightfall")

                                    • One sun, and many moons

                                    • Large amounts of very white (or reflective) dust, which reflects sunlight around the atmosphere.

                                    • Underground or underwater societies.

                                    • Regular volcanic eruptions causing volcanic ash in the atmosphere (or anything else in the atmosphere)

                                    • Monsters that come out at sunset

                                    • taboo/superstition/religion

                                    • Your planet might be near a black hole, causing gravitational lensing, an accretion disk, unusually high speed orbits, and jets coming from the poles.






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                                      0








                                      0






                                      The sun is a star, but I know what you mean. Here are some other options:




                                      • Multiple suns (such as Asimov's "Nightfall")

                                      • One sun, and many moons

                                      • Large amounts of very white (or reflective) dust, which reflects sunlight around the atmosphere.

                                      • Underground or underwater societies.

                                      • Regular volcanic eruptions causing volcanic ash in the atmosphere (or anything else in the atmosphere)

                                      • Monsters that come out at sunset

                                      • taboo/superstition/religion

                                      • Your planet might be near a black hole, causing gravitational lensing, an accretion disk, unusually high speed orbits, and jets coming from the poles.






                                      share|improve this answer












                                      The sun is a star, but I know what you mean. Here are some other options:




                                      • Multiple suns (such as Asimov's "Nightfall")

                                      • One sun, and many moons

                                      • Large amounts of very white (or reflective) dust, which reflects sunlight around the atmosphere.

                                      • Underground or underwater societies.

                                      • Regular volcanic eruptions causing volcanic ash in the atmosphere (or anything else in the atmosphere)

                                      • Monsters that come out at sunset

                                      • taboo/superstition/religion

                                      • Your planet might be near a black hole, causing gravitational lensing, an accretion disk, unusually high speed orbits, and jets coming from the poles.







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