Since hybrid bikes may be a compromise with no benefits, why are they still often preferred for commuting...
Since hybrid bikes may be a compromise with no benefits, why are they still often preferred for commuting instead of drop bar bikes?
According to at least one opinion, hybrids are a compromise with no benefits.
What is the downside to me purchasing a road bike instead of a hybrid?
Using drops bars instead can make you a few mph faster because the posture makes it more aerodynamic. I felt that my road bike with a pannier was faster than my hybrid bike without it! It seems like a lot of cycling commuters I see are missing out. My city's pretty bike friendly.
From what I've read, bikes with drop bars can be comfortable, be affordable, have wider tires, have fenders, and carry panniers.
Some of those features are more common in cyclocross and touring bikes than road bikes.
Interestingly, people find that drop bars make the bike more comfortable for longer distances. Often, when there's discomfort, bike fit or changing the posture or pedalling form is recommended. If the rider isn't used to such a low posture, the stem could be raised.
It's possible to get a used bike with a drop bar at a reasonable price. If a faster bike makes you drive less, you might save more even if you had to pay more for a faster bike and its parts.
It's possible to get bikes that have eyelets for mounting racks for panniers, and fenders. If they don't have them, it's possible to get adapters so that they could be mounted. Another option is bikepacking bags.
So far, the only advantages of hybrid bikes that I know of are peripheral vision and braking power. In bike friendly cities, they shouldn't be as much of an issue.
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Since hybrid bikes may be a compromise with no benefits, why are they still often preferred for commuting instead of drop bar bikes?
According to at least one opinion, hybrids are a compromise with no benefits.
What is the downside to me purchasing a road bike instead of a hybrid?
Using drops bars instead can make you a few mph faster because the posture makes it more aerodynamic. I felt that my road bike with a pannier was faster than my hybrid bike without it! It seems like a lot of cycling commuters I see are missing out. My city's pretty bike friendly.
From what I've read, bikes with drop bars can be comfortable, be affordable, have wider tires, have fenders, and carry panniers.
Some of those features are more common in cyclocross and touring bikes than road bikes.
Interestingly, people find that drop bars make the bike more comfortable for longer distances. Often, when there's discomfort, bike fit or changing the posture or pedalling form is recommended. If the rider isn't used to such a low posture, the stem could be raised.
It's possible to get a used bike with a drop bar at a reasonable price. If a faster bike makes you drive less, you might save more even if you had to pay more for a faster bike and its parts.
It's possible to get bikes that have eyelets for mounting racks for panniers, and fenders. If they don't have them, it's possible to get adapters so that they could be mounted. Another option is bikepacking bags.
So far, the only advantages of hybrid bikes that I know of are peripheral vision and braking power. In bike friendly cities, they shouldn't be as much of an issue.
road-bike commuter hybrid-bike
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Even "bike friendly" cities have cars and pedestrians, and the vision and braking advantages you reference are always useful. There's always that one terrible intersection....
– Criggie♦
1 hour ago
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Since hybrid bikes may be a compromise with no benefits, why are they still often preferred for commuting instead of drop bar bikes?
According to at least one opinion, hybrids are a compromise with no benefits.
What is the downside to me purchasing a road bike instead of a hybrid?
Using drops bars instead can make you a few mph faster because the posture makes it more aerodynamic. I felt that my road bike with a pannier was faster than my hybrid bike without it! It seems like a lot of cycling commuters I see are missing out. My city's pretty bike friendly.
From what I've read, bikes with drop bars can be comfortable, be affordable, have wider tires, have fenders, and carry panniers.
Some of those features are more common in cyclocross and touring bikes than road bikes.
Interestingly, people find that drop bars make the bike more comfortable for longer distances. Often, when there's discomfort, bike fit or changing the posture or pedalling form is recommended. If the rider isn't used to such a low posture, the stem could be raised.
It's possible to get a used bike with a drop bar at a reasonable price. If a faster bike makes you drive less, you might save more even if you had to pay more for a faster bike and its parts.
It's possible to get bikes that have eyelets for mounting racks for panniers, and fenders. If they don't have them, it's possible to get adapters so that they could be mounted. Another option is bikepacking bags.
So far, the only advantages of hybrid bikes that I know of are peripheral vision and braking power. In bike friendly cities, they shouldn't be as much of an issue.
road-bike commuter hybrid-bike
Since hybrid bikes may be a compromise with no benefits, why are they still often preferred for commuting instead of drop bar bikes?
According to at least one opinion, hybrids are a compromise with no benefits.
What is the downside to me purchasing a road bike instead of a hybrid?
Using drops bars instead can make you a few mph faster because the posture makes it more aerodynamic. I felt that my road bike with a pannier was faster than my hybrid bike without it! It seems like a lot of cycling commuters I see are missing out. My city's pretty bike friendly.
From what I've read, bikes with drop bars can be comfortable, be affordable, have wider tires, have fenders, and carry panniers.
Some of those features are more common in cyclocross and touring bikes than road bikes.
Interestingly, people find that drop bars make the bike more comfortable for longer distances. Often, when there's discomfort, bike fit or changing the posture or pedalling form is recommended. If the rider isn't used to such a low posture, the stem could be raised.
It's possible to get a used bike with a drop bar at a reasonable price. If a faster bike makes you drive less, you might save more even if you had to pay more for a faster bike and its parts.
It's possible to get bikes that have eyelets for mounting racks for panniers, and fenders. If they don't have them, it's possible to get adapters so that they could be mounted. Another option is bikepacking bags.
So far, the only advantages of hybrid bikes that I know of are peripheral vision and braking power. In bike friendly cities, they shouldn't be as much of an issue.
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Even "bike friendly" cities have cars and pedestrians, and the vision and braking advantages you reference are always useful. There's always that one terrible intersection....
– Criggie♦
1 hour ago
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Even "bike friendly" cities have cars and pedestrians, and the vision and braking advantages you reference are always useful. There's always that one terrible intersection....
– Criggie♦
1 hour ago
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Even "bike friendly" cities have cars and pedestrians, and the vision and braking advantages you reference are always useful. There's always that one terrible intersection....
– Criggie♦
1 hour ago
Even "bike friendly" cities have cars and pedestrians, and the vision and braking advantages you reference are always useful. There's always that one terrible intersection....
– Criggie♦
1 hour ago
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You are wrong that hybrid style bicycles have no advantages over drop bar road bikes. You kind-of invalidated your premise by saying hybrids are a compromise, which means by definition certain beneficial features have been chosen over others in order to obtain a desired result. In fact all bike styles are a design compromise.
Compared to a road bike hybrids trade mass, speed and efficiency for comfort, control, safety and and affordability. A more upright riding position is more comfortable for casual, infrequent cyclists and offers better visibility and control. Flat, wider bars also provide more control and position the brake levers more naturally to hand. Flat bar frames also position the front wheel relatively further forward which helps prevent the rider going over the bars under hard braking.
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Simply, I reject the premise of your question and I'm sure I'm not alone. I say that as someone who has a tourer and a hybrid, and commutes on both - the speed difference is much less tab the variability in traffic volumes.
In practical commuting conditions you're rarely aero-limited anyway, rather it's the speed of traffic, and to a lesser extent the acceleration. The extra visibility from the more upright position can mean getting away from a junction a touch sooner than in a lower position.
The biggest aero benefit from drop bars is when riding in the drops - and you don't often see people commuting in the drops. That position is much more useful for sustained effort than the typical stop-start commute.
Hybrids generally have a sufficiently forgiving fit that you can buy nominally the right size, get the saddle height right and go. No hassle, no need to be particularly flexible. Most commuters won't have heard of the concept of having your bike fitted properly, and would rightly have no interest in it.
On a hybrid bike, it took me about 30 minutes to get to work and on my road bike, it took a few minutes less. The route I took had bicycle boulevards that means very light traffic. The distance was between 8 and 9 km. Being faster can mean you're more likely to make it through a green light which means saving up to almost 2 minutes. I don't get too much bottlenecking.
– Han-Lin
43 mins ago
@han-Lin - Conformation bias - statistically as often as that extra speed gets you though the lights, it has you waiting while as the guy on the hybrid pulls up behind you. on average of a large number of samples, you will be fast by same percentage as you average speed is. (Unless light phases are synched to traffic speed and you can ride at traffic speed and hybrid rider cannot)
– mattnz
39 mins ago
@mattnz I think it happens for a few traffic lights. Eventually I have a hard time seeing him.
– Han-Lin
33 mins ago
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You are wrong that hybrid style bicycles have no advantages over drop bar road bikes. You kind-of invalidated your premise by saying hybrids are a compromise, which means by definition certain beneficial features have been chosen over others in order to obtain a desired result. In fact all bike styles are a design compromise.
Compared to a road bike hybrids trade mass, speed and efficiency for comfort, control, safety and and affordability. A more upright riding position is more comfortable for casual, infrequent cyclists and offers better visibility and control. Flat, wider bars also provide more control and position the brake levers more naturally to hand. Flat bar frames also position the front wheel relatively further forward which helps prevent the rider going over the bars under hard braking.
add a comment |
You are wrong that hybrid style bicycles have no advantages over drop bar road bikes. You kind-of invalidated your premise by saying hybrids are a compromise, which means by definition certain beneficial features have been chosen over others in order to obtain a desired result. In fact all bike styles are a design compromise.
Compared to a road bike hybrids trade mass, speed and efficiency for comfort, control, safety and and affordability. A more upright riding position is more comfortable for casual, infrequent cyclists and offers better visibility and control. Flat, wider bars also provide more control and position the brake levers more naturally to hand. Flat bar frames also position the front wheel relatively further forward which helps prevent the rider going over the bars under hard braking.
add a comment |
You are wrong that hybrid style bicycles have no advantages over drop bar road bikes. You kind-of invalidated your premise by saying hybrids are a compromise, which means by definition certain beneficial features have been chosen over others in order to obtain a desired result. In fact all bike styles are a design compromise.
Compared to a road bike hybrids trade mass, speed and efficiency for comfort, control, safety and and affordability. A more upright riding position is more comfortable for casual, infrequent cyclists and offers better visibility and control. Flat, wider bars also provide more control and position the brake levers more naturally to hand. Flat bar frames also position the front wheel relatively further forward which helps prevent the rider going over the bars under hard braking.
You are wrong that hybrid style bicycles have no advantages over drop bar road bikes. You kind-of invalidated your premise by saying hybrids are a compromise, which means by definition certain beneficial features have been chosen over others in order to obtain a desired result. In fact all bike styles are a design compromise.
Compared to a road bike hybrids trade mass, speed and efficiency for comfort, control, safety and and affordability. A more upright riding position is more comfortable for casual, infrequent cyclists and offers better visibility and control. Flat, wider bars also provide more control and position the brake levers more naturally to hand. Flat bar frames also position the front wheel relatively further forward which helps prevent the rider going over the bars under hard braking.
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Simply, I reject the premise of your question and I'm sure I'm not alone. I say that as someone who has a tourer and a hybrid, and commutes on both - the speed difference is much less tab the variability in traffic volumes.
In practical commuting conditions you're rarely aero-limited anyway, rather it's the speed of traffic, and to a lesser extent the acceleration. The extra visibility from the more upright position can mean getting away from a junction a touch sooner than in a lower position.
The biggest aero benefit from drop bars is when riding in the drops - and you don't often see people commuting in the drops. That position is much more useful for sustained effort than the typical stop-start commute.
Hybrids generally have a sufficiently forgiving fit that you can buy nominally the right size, get the saddle height right and go. No hassle, no need to be particularly flexible. Most commuters won't have heard of the concept of having your bike fitted properly, and would rightly have no interest in it.
On a hybrid bike, it took me about 30 minutes to get to work and on my road bike, it took a few minutes less. The route I took had bicycle boulevards that means very light traffic. The distance was between 8 and 9 km. Being faster can mean you're more likely to make it through a green light which means saving up to almost 2 minutes. I don't get too much bottlenecking.
– Han-Lin
43 mins ago
@han-Lin - Conformation bias - statistically as often as that extra speed gets you though the lights, it has you waiting while as the guy on the hybrid pulls up behind you. on average of a large number of samples, you will be fast by same percentage as you average speed is. (Unless light phases are synched to traffic speed and you can ride at traffic speed and hybrid rider cannot)
– mattnz
39 mins ago
@mattnz I think it happens for a few traffic lights. Eventually I have a hard time seeing him.
– Han-Lin
33 mins ago
add a comment |
Simply, I reject the premise of your question and I'm sure I'm not alone. I say that as someone who has a tourer and a hybrid, and commutes on both - the speed difference is much less tab the variability in traffic volumes.
In practical commuting conditions you're rarely aero-limited anyway, rather it's the speed of traffic, and to a lesser extent the acceleration. The extra visibility from the more upright position can mean getting away from a junction a touch sooner than in a lower position.
The biggest aero benefit from drop bars is when riding in the drops - and you don't often see people commuting in the drops. That position is much more useful for sustained effort than the typical stop-start commute.
Hybrids generally have a sufficiently forgiving fit that you can buy nominally the right size, get the saddle height right and go. No hassle, no need to be particularly flexible. Most commuters won't have heard of the concept of having your bike fitted properly, and would rightly have no interest in it.
On a hybrid bike, it took me about 30 minutes to get to work and on my road bike, it took a few minutes less. The route I took had bicycle boulevards that means very light traffic. The distance was between 8 and 9 km. Being faster can mean you're more likely to make it through a green light which means saving up to almost 2 minutes. I don't get too much bottlenecking.
– Han-Lin
43 mins ago
@han-Lin - Conformation bias - statistically as often as that extra speed gets you though the lights, it has you waiting while as the guy on the hybrid pulls up behind you. on average of a large number of samples, you will be fast by same percentage as you average speed is. (Unless light phases are synched to traffic speed and you can ride at traffic speed and hybrid rider cannot)
– mattnz
39 mins ago
@mattnz I think it happens for a few traffic lights. Eventually I have a hard time seeing him.
– Han-Lin
33 mins ago
add a comment |
Simply, I reject the premise of your question and I'm sure I'm not alone. I say that as someone who has a tourer and a hybrid, and commutes on both - the speed difference is much less tab the variability in traffic volumes.
In practical commuting conditions you're rarely aero-limited anyway, rather it's the speed of traffic, and to a lesser extent the acceleration. The extra visibility from the more upright position can mean getting away from a junction a touch sooner than in a lower position.
The biggest aero benefit from drop bars is when riding in the drops - and you don't often see people commuting in the drops. That position is much more useful for sustained effort than the typical stop-start commute.
Hybrids generally have a sufficiently forgiving fit that you can buy nominally the right size, get the saddle height right and go. No hassle, no need to be particularly flexible. Most commuters won't have heard of the concept of having your bike fitted properly, and would rightly have no interest in it.
Simply, I reject the premise of your question and I'm sure I'm not alone. I say that as someone who has a tourer and a hybrid, and commutes on both - the speed difference is much less tab the variability in traffic volumes.
In practical commuting conditions you're rarely aero-limited anyway, rather it's the speed of traffic, and to a lesser extent the acceleration. The extra visibility from the more upright position can mean getting away from a junction a touch sooner than in a lower position.
The biggest aero benefit from drop bars is when riding in the drops - and you don't often see people commuting in the drops. That position is much more useful for sustained effort than the typical stop-start commute.
Hybrids generally have a sufficiently forgiving fit that you can buy nominally the right size, get the saddle height right and go. No hassle, no need to be particularly flexible. Most commuters won't have heard of the concept of having your bike fitted properly, and would rightly have no interest in it.
answered 2 hours ago
Chris H
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On a hybrid bike, it took me about 30 minutes to get to work and on my road bike, it took a few minutes less. The route I took had bicycle boulevards that means very light traffic. The distance was between 8 and 9 km. Being faster can mean you're more likely to make it through a green light which means saving up to almost 2 minutes. I don't get too much bottlenecking.
– Han-Lin
43 mins ago
@han-Lin - Conformation bias - statistically as often as that extra speed gets you though the lights, it has you waiting while as the guy on the hybrid pulls up behind you. on average of a large number of samples, you will be fast by same percentage as you average speed is. (Unless light phases are synched to traffic speed and you can ride at traffic speed and hybrid rider cannot)
– mattnz
39 mins ago
@mattnz I think it happens for a few traffic lights. Eventually I have a hard time seeing him.
– Han-Lin
33 mins ago
add a comment |
On a hybrid bike, it took me about 30 minutes to get to work and on my road bike, it took a few minutes less. The route I took had bicycle boulevards that means very light traffic. The distance was between 8 and 9 km. Being faster can mean you're more likely to make it through a green light which means saving up to almost 2 minutes. I don't get too much bottlenecking.
– Han-Lin
43 mins ago
@han-Lin - Conformation bias - statistically as often as that extra speed gets you though the lights, it has you waiting while as the guy on the hybrid pulls up behind you. on average of a large number of samples, you will be fast by same percentage as you average speed is. (Unless light phases are synched to traffic speed and you can ride at traffic speed and hybrid rider cannot)
– mattnz
39 mins ago
@mattnz I think it happens for a few traffic lights. Eventually I have a hard time seeing him.
– Han-Lin
33 mins ago
On a hybrid bike, it took me about 30 minutes to get to work and on my road bike, it took a few minutes less. The route I took had bicycle boulevards that means very light traffic. The distance was between 8 and 9 km. Being faster can mean you're more likely to make it through a green light which means saving up to almost 2 minutes. I don't get too much bottlenecking.
– Han-Lin
43 mins ago
On a hybrid bike, it took me about 30 minutes to get to work and on my road bike, it took a few minutes less. The route I took had bicycle boulevards that means very light traffic. The distance was between 8 and 9 km. Being faster can mean you're more likely to make it through a green light which means saving up to almost 2 minutes. I don't get too much bottlenecking.
– Han-Lin
43 mins ago
@han-Lin - Conformation bias - statistically as often as that extra speed gets you though the lights, it has you waiting while as the guy on the hybrid pulls up behind you. on average of a large number of samples, you will be fast by same percentage as you average speed is. (Unless light phases are synched to traffic speed and you can ride at traffic speed and hybrid rider cannot)
– mattnz
39 mins ago
@han-Lin - Conformation bias - statistically as often as that extra speed gets you though the lights, it has you waiting while as the guy on the hybrid pulls up behind you. on average of a large number of samples, you will be fast by same percentage as you average speed is. (Unless light phases are synched to traffic speed and you can ride at traffic speed and hybrid rider cannot)
– mattnz
39 mins ago
@mattnz I think it happens for a few traffic lights. Eventually I have a hard time seeing him.
– Han-Lin
33 mins ago
@mattnz I think it happens for a few traffic lights. Eventually I have a hard time seeing him.
– Han-Lin
33 mins ago
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Even "bike friendly" cities have cars and pedestrians, and the vision and braking advantages you reference are always useful. There's always that one terrible intersection....
– Criggie♦
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